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Thread: Wildmage+Maximize Spell?
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2008-12-30, 01:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wildmage+Maximize Spell?
So, am I right in thinking that a wildmage's caster level would also be maximized, since that is also a variable, numeric effect?
All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized. Saving throws and opposed rolls are not affected, nor are spells without random variables. A maximized spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell’s actual level.
An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus one-half the normally rolled result.
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Re: Wildmage+Maximize Spell?
All variable, numeric effects of a spell modified by this feat are maximized. Saving throws and opposed rolls are not affected, nor are spells without random variables. A maximized spell uses up a spell slot three levels higher than the spell’s actual level.
An empowered, maximized spell gains the separate benefits of each feat: the maximum result plus one-half the normally rolled result.
I don't think the caster level is counted as part of the spell. It determines certain things about the spell, but isn't part of it. A 1st level wizard and a 20th level wizard both can cast ray of frost, after all. Also, caster level changes the Saving throw only (At lest of most spells, I know about Fireball and other that change damage too). Personally, I'd rule against this.
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Re: Wildmage+Maximize Spell?
No, caster level wouldn't be affected, by the text you yourself quoted. Maximize Spell says all variable, numerical EFFECTS of spells are maximized. Caster level isn't an effect of a spell (unless, I guess you have a spell that gives you +X caster level, which doesn't exist AFAIK), whereas damage or something like that IS an effect.
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Well, here's a long shot because I have no idea what I'm talking about, but:
What kind of ability is the wildmage's caster level variable? Supernatural, Extraordinary? I ask because: If, by some ridiculous chance, it is Spell-like, you could use Maximize SLA on it.
But, I don't know anything about the Wildmage. I'm of the belief that the wildmage is only cool if you houserule in an d100 table of effects to mess with the caster.Check out a bunch of stuff I wrote for my campaign world of Oz.
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2E wildmage (from tome of magic) had one, and it was awesome.
I remember this one time our DM made this door-that-can-be-opened-by-answering-a-riddle thing, and after trying every answer we could think of, I got angry and tried to use the fist of stone spell to punch the door open. I roll the caster level check and get a wild surge, I roll the wild surge and get the result "All normal doors, secret doors, portcullises, etc. (including those locked or barred) within 60' of caster swing open"Last edited by Fostire; 2008-12-30 at 11:58 AM.
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All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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Huh. I've always assumed that the lack of a marker means that someone somewhere merely forgot what they were doing. Meh, I'd probably call anything similar/related to this ability (Ex), just to cover all my bases.
Also, on topic, Wild Mage is a hilarious class. I approve of the older version, which had a chance to make you roll on the d100 chart of "WTFGUYS??"Last edited by arguskos; 2008-12-30 at 12:12 PM.
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I like both versions of the Wild Mage, and would personally disallow the use of Practiced Spellcaster to mitigate the class feature, though it technically works, RAW. How cheesy and entirely against the spirit of the class.
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No it isn't. That's exactly what the feat is supposed to represent: a spellcaster that practises his casting. The Wild Mage that took it, in this case, is practised enough to mitigate his penalties, so that he doesn't lose his head when casting wildly and is just as good if not better than any other, more sane spellcaster.
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