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Thread: [4e] Guileful Switch
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2009-01-15, 01:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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[4e] Guileful Switch
Ok, I'm considering this power for my newly-6th-level Warlord. For a minor action, you get to switch places with someone in the order... moving them to where you are, and they take their actions (even if they've already acted in this round), and you move to their place.
So, a few scenarios, to see if I'm understanding this right.
1) Furious, our barbarian, moved first in the round. I take my Standard and Move, then spend my minor on Guileful Switch. Furious now goes, and I go at the top of the round.
2) I rolled well, Furious sucked. I spend my Standard and Move, then minor to bring Furious up to where I am, and I'll get my action when Furious would've normally gone.
As I read it, it's essentially "You or an ally go twice this round."Last edited by LibraryOgre; 2009-01-15 at 10:44 AM. Reason: Edition tag in title
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2009-01-15, 02:03 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Guileful Switch
Yes, you are correct on both accounts.
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2009-01-15, 03:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-01-15, 05:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Guileful Switch
While as worded it does precisely that, this strikes me as way overpowered for any pre-epic power. The intent appears to simply be to swap initiative of two people, which is already useful (if situational). Thus, if WOTC ever decides to go for another round of errata, I'd expect this to be one of the first to be changed. But until they do, hey, feel free
As it stands, I'm tempted to multiclass my characters to warlord just so I can take this power.Guide to the Magus, the Pathfinder Gish class.
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2009-01-15, 07:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Guileful Switch
Guileful Switch?
MORE LIKE WHITE RAVEN TACTICS AMIRITE?
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2009-01-15, 10:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
Ok, groovy. I think Hzurr is going to wind up with some headaches if we ever stop talking about people we should be beating up. ;-)
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2009-01-15, 11:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
If you do find it abusive, and want to fix it -- change it to a Standard Action.
I think it is still good enough to use!
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2009-01-15, 11:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
Furious going twice in one round...?
Oh my.
This could lead to problems. And death (for pretty much anyone you run into).
*Goes off to increase encounter difficulties for the campaign*
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2009-01-15, 01:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
What book is that in?
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2009-01-15, 01:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
Last edited by RTGoodman; 2009-01-15 at 01:37 PM.
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2009-01-15, 01:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [4e] Guileful Switch
The Cranky Gamer
*It isn't realism, it's verisimilitude; the appearance of truth within the framework of the game.
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