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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Daemon

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    Default Barding and Proficiency

    I'm in the process of stating my Unicorn animal companion and i can't seem to find if barding requires a proficiency feat like normal armor....
    SO I turn to you, great seers of the playground, for help!

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    Default Re: Barding and Proficiency

    It does. However, proficiency penalties are based on ACP. Masterwork Studded Leather is perfect for this.
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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
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    Default Re: Barding and Proficiency

    And that handles that. Thank you Sstoopidtallkid.

    So much for my Full Plated Horned Horse of Love....

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    Default Re: Barding and Proficiency

    FWIW, I allow a variety of creatures (including fey) to substitute levels of NPC classes for their HD. Thus, a Unicorn might have a few levels of Warrior, giving it less skill points, but proficiency with armor.
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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
    Daemon

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    Default Re: Barding and Proficiency

    Well, then i might as well give him Greatsword horseshoes and Power Attack...

    But how would he swing it two-handed(footed?hooved?)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-naras View Post
    Well, then i might as well give him Greatsword horseshoes and Power Attack...

    But how would he swing it two-handed(footed?hooved?)?
    Hilarious. However, it explains animals that are set to be warriors, or skilled, or mixed (aristocrats), and replaces the lackluster racial HD.
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    Barbarian in the Playground
     
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    Hilarious.
    I wasn't making fun of your houserule, I was just having a funny image. Sorry if that offended you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-naras View Post
    I wasn't making fun of your houserule, I was just having a funny image. Sorry if that offended you...
    No problem; I can get having a posting in response to a funny mental image.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sstoopidtallkid View Post
    It does. However, proficiency penalties are based on ACP. Masterwork Studded Leather is perfect for this.
    You know, all the years I've been playing 3.x D&D, and I never bothered to look up what the penalty was for wearing armor non-proficiently. Huh, how about that.
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    Default Re: Barding and Proficiency

    should any creature with "war" in its name get proficiency? If not, does that mean paladin warhorses have to carefully pick feats as they level up?

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    Ogre in the Playground
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    There's a Warbeast template in MMII. Not so relevant to critters like unicorns or paladin mounts, but it gives proficiency in all armors, more Str, some Con, and other goodies. All at the low low cost of one racial hit die. Worth considering if you're playing an Awakened Dire Bear in an epic game or some such.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hamishspence View Post
    should any creature with "war" in its name get proficiency? If not, does that mean paladin warhorses have to carefully pick feats as they level up?
    In 3.0's Masters of the Wild, they go into more detail about the Handle Animal skill's list of tricks you can train an animal to do. One of those tricks is to wear armour. I think there's even more detail somewhere else, where they package up 'wartraining' as a collection of tricks.

    I don't know what they did in the transition to 3.5.
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