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    Default Elves and getting drunk?

    So what would happen? My players talked about it and wondered, but I don't have an answer. Elves don't sleep, but I don't think it makes you unconcious. Trance somehow doesn't seem to fit. Opinions?
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    If you are asking about unconsciousness, elves can become unconscious. If you are asking what happens when elves drink... they don't drink to the point of passing out. Once they get to the point of reversing their sexual orientation, they simply stop drinking and start misbehaving.

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    I know of no reason why elves shouldn't be able to get drunk, even to the point of passing out. If you want a "classic" reference for it, a couple of elves do just that in The Hobbit.

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    Alcohol disrupts your normal sleep patterns, and can prevent you from reaching REM sleep. So what happens when you drink to the point of passing out isn't exactly the same thing as "sleep" anyway. I'd say it affects elves the same way it affects humans (though possibly more so given their CON penalty).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog Dragon View Post
    So what would happen? My players talked about it and wondered, but I don't have an answer. Elves don't sleep, but I don't think it makes you unconcious. Trance somehow doesn't seem to fit. Opinions?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    Elves have four stages of inebriation:

    1. I think I'm better than you.
    2. I *know* I'm better than you.
    3. I'm immortal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darrin View Post
    Elves have four stages of inebriation:

    1. I think I'm better than you.
    2. I *know* I'm better than you.
    3. I'm immortal.
    4. Hey baby, wanna make a half-elf?
    Wait, I thought points 1-3 describe a sober elf?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    Wait, I thought points 1-3 describe a sober elf?
    Given an elf's con, being awake is enough to count as schnockered.
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    Check out the Return of the King: extended edition. It features a drinking competition between Gimli and Legolas.

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    They go unconscious from the subdual damage, not a sleep effect.

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    Just because elves don't need to sleep doesn't mean they can't do it. Maybe when they get drunk or otherwise mentally fatigued they also feel a need to lie down and take a nap, even if they technically could just as well trance.
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    Elves do sleep. they just call it "Trancing" because that sounds fancier.

    Also, Drunk elves start using bigger and bigger words, until they try to say somthing along the lines of "I'm Fine" and pass out from lack of oxygen when they try to say some thirty eight syllable phrase that means the same thing in one breath.

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    There's also a "canon" instance of an elf getting drunk.

    In one of the "novels" (and I use the word loosely) about the 3.x Iconics, there's one that features Mialee (the Cricket Elf Wizardess) and Devis (the Half-Elf Bard). Mialee can't hold her booze, and eventually they, uh, end up gettin' it on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rtg0922 View Post
    In one of the "novels" (and I use the word loosely) about the 3.x Iconics, there's one that features Mialee (the Cricket Elf Wizardess) and Devis (the Half-Elf Bard). Mialee can't hold her booze, and eventually they, uh, end up gettin' it on.
    Mialee also stays up most of the night until she sobers up, IIRC, because she's incapable of sleep and being drunk prevents her from trancing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gamiress View Post
    Getting a male Drow drunk = disturbing and depressing.
    How is that different from anything else with a male drow?

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    How is that different from anything else with a male drow?
    While drunk, some male Drow are more apt to answer questions posed by party members, leading to new and interesting revelations about said Drow's opinions of women that the party wish they hadn't asked about but certainly explain a few things.

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    They must be truly and utterly hammered if an elf is willing to inflict that scar upon the world.
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    Well, if I was an immortal being I would spend a lot of time in bars hitting on human women. You have the time to spare, so why not?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charl View Post
    Well, if I was an immortal being I would spend a lot of time in bars hitting on human women. You have the time to spare, so why not?
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    elves just like any other living creature not immune to poison, Elves can become drunk. Drinking too much would cause them to become unconscious, just like any other effect that causes unconsciousness, like sub-dual damage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by krossbow View Post
    elves just like any other living creature not immune to poison, Elves can become drunk. Drinking too much would cause them to become unconscious, just like any other effect that causes unconsciousness, like sub-dual damage.
    Does that mean high level monks cant get drunk?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Strife View Post
    Does that mean high level monks cant get drunk?
    So much for that Drunken Master PrC...

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    Does that mean high level monks cant get drunk?
    Wouldn't that interfere with their ability to take levels in Drunken Master?
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    Wouldn't that interfere with their ability to take levels in Drunken Master?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Frog Dragon View Post
    So what would happen? My players talked about it and wondered, but I don't have an answer. Elves don't sleep, but I don't think it makes you unconcious. Trance somehow doesn't seem to fit. Opinions?
    All Elves are shandy-sipping one pot screamers who tend to cry, fall down, wet themselves and then pass out in a puddle of their own thin watery puke when given proper drink. Their elbows are jointed wrong for stein-hoisting, and their gullets are not shaped correctly for quaffing. They lack stylish beards to act as drip-towels, and their language has no words for 'kebab', 'curry', or 'late-night pizza'. Elves are puny and weak at drinking (as they are at so much else). Here endeth the lesson.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bosssmiley View Post
    PS: elven wines? Created by Hill Dwarf vintners. You don't get vineyards in forests.
    You can and in Canada we most assuredly DO.

    The trees are bloody well everywhere. It's not like we can just ask them to move, none of them are Ents. So, we plant wine fruits between them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuki_Akuma View Post
    Drunken Masters drink 98-proof firewhiskey. Obviously.
    Thats only 48% alchohol, and another reason monks suck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kris Strife View Post
    Thats only 48% alchohol, and another reason monks suck.
    49 Percent. Monks still suck.
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    Drunken Masters choose to be inebriated, I would think. After all, the flavour text says the monks are immuneto poison and disease because they can control their metabolism.
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