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2009-03-16, 12:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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[3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
...when one can merely cast legion's greater magic weapon (MoE) in a lower spell slot?
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2009-03-16, 12:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
You would have to cast Legion's GMW sixty times for every one time you cast Chained GMW. Plus if you use a Lesser Metamagic Rod it doesn't take a higher level spell slot.
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
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2009-03-16, 01:18 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
But one lasts one hour/level, the other is only one minute/level, therefore, it takes sixty casts of Legion's GMW to equal the duration of one Chained GMW.
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2009-03-16, 01:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
Duration, I'm guessing. I can't look it up right now, but I expect Legion's GMW has a duration of 1 minute/level, while GMW lasts an hour/level. Thus, you have to recast LGMW once per battle, costing potentially a lot more spell slots and usually requiring an in combat action. Chained GMW, on the other hand, you just cast once in the morning and that's it for the whole day. Sure, it can theoretically be dispelled, but any smart build using this strategy is going to have caster level out the wazoo for a short period 1/day, which both makes successful dispelling very unlikely and increases the bonus granted.
Also, MoE is a much more obscure source than core + Complete Arcane.Last edited by Douglas; 2009-03-16 at 01:25 PM.
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
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Re: [3.5e] Why, Exactly, The Fixation On Chained GMW...?
A Lesser MM Rod of Chaining is indeed a valuable item for a wizard. You use 1 charge to Chain GMW, and the other 2 charges to Chain Nerveskitter for the first 2 fights in a day. +5 party initiative is fan-freakin-tastic.
That, and the duration.
Plus, GMW doesn't actually come into play until at least level 8, regardless. Prior to that, anyone meleeing should be bringing at least a +1 weapon to the table as soon as they are able. The +1 weapon is required anyway, if the player wants to add any fun +equiv enhancements to the weapon. Thus, GMW doesn't even provide any benefit until CL8. Really, not until the caster can hit CL12 should it really be used much anyway. Its a lot of resource investment for just a +1 to hit and damage. But when the delta becomes +2, it does become more useful.