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Thread: (3.5) Listen Check questions
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2009-04-04, 09:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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(3.5) Listen Check questions
I was wondering if anyone had any insights on how to handle listen checks under the following situations:
Magical flight - Does this make any kind of sound? I figure that magical flight is silent, and you'd only hear air resistance. How would you handle detecting someone under the effects of a Fly spell with listen?
Casting a spell - If casting a spell with a verbal component involves speaking, what's the listen check to hear someone casting a spell? Is it possible to whisper?
If there are rules for these, please tell me where I can find them. If there are none, then feel free to suggest something you feel makes sense.
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2009-04-04, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (3.5) Listen Check questions
http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicOverv...htm#components
(Magic Overview => spell descriptions => components)
Originally Posted by SRD
To cast a spell without being heard you'd need the silent spell feat, the bard spell zone of silence or a silence spell cast between you and the listener (but not on top of you).
I found no special rules given for magical flight, so technically you'd have to make a move silently check as normal since flight is just another form of movement. Even an owl who glides with famous silence without flapping merely gets a bonus to his move silently checks (see monster manuall). Conceptually stuff jangles and clinks, you make wooshing noises, you make breathing noises, etc. In fact, I'd say you make a lot more noise than an aerodynamic bird in glide mode (they don't flap when they want to quietly catch prey). I could understand the DM giving an ad hoc bonus to move silently checks, but by no means are you completely silent if you're flying magically. Also remember there's a -1 penalty to listen checks per 10 feet of distance, so that helps.Last edited by ericgrau; 2009-04-04 at 10:48 PM.
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2009-04-05, 02:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: (3.5) Listen Check questions
Flight (magical or otherwise) would also negate a variety of circumstance penalties to Move Silently: You don't care about dry leaves on the forest floor if you're not on the forest floor. And you might even be able to talk your DM into a circumstance bonus of +2 or so. But you're still wearing clothes that swish, possibly jewelry or other items that jangle, you're still breathing, etc., so it certainly wouldn't give you total silence.
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2009-04-05, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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