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    Noooooo!!!! Not the Fiendish Cockroach! He has all the best lines!

    Oh well, at least there's one more left skittering around somewhere.

    What are those things anyway? They're not a summons, because they've been around too long. Maybe they're Xykon's familiars (though if so it'd more then enough hit points to survive one hit, and I have no clue how Xykon could get more then one, both of which with the fiendish template).
    The fiendish cockroaches started following Xykon around after Xykon and Redcloak had coffee at an evil diner. They've been following them around ever since then. (All detailed in Start of Darkness...)
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    Darn it I nearly cried at work again. I got to remember never to check the site at work or at least not read the comic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zevox View Post
    So... what's O-Chul up to?

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    His plan is probably two fold. The short term plan is to provide enuf of a distraction to allow V to escape. V isn't exactly chump change on the Important Power Players of the World Hierarchy. And if V escapes (and he and O'Chul do significant damage to Team Evil while doing so) then that is a net plus for the forces of good.*


    The longer term plan is probably much more important, however. It's clear that O'Chul has been working on the MitD's psyche for a long long time. So he is hoping that his example/actions will drive a wedge between the MitD and Team Evil. It's a wedge that might not be fully realized today or even tomorrow. But by planting the seed today, O'Chul is hoping that one day, perhaps in the distant future, perhaps not, the MitD will break with Team Evil.

    And from what we've seen of the raw power of the MitD, that would be a significant setback for their plans.

    Is O'Chul's plan going to work? We probably won't know for a good long while. But it's probably the best option that O'Chul had at handing Team Evil a huge setback. Even if it takes hundreds of strips to realize.

    * Well it would be if it weren't for the long term plans of the IFCC, but O'Chul doesn't know about that small detail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Argall View Post
    Right now is likely a pretty dangerous time to be making predictions. We know Xykon is going to survive, but that's about it. O-Chul should have zero chance here. He's only about 10th level. [He was inferior to both Miko and Hinjo.] He's fighting without armor and with only an improvised weapon.
    Right, he WAS inferior. But he has been running the gauntlet for 4 months now, and winning, I think he is probably 13th - 14th level now.

    It could be interesting........
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    Anyone else notice the "Suburst"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    His plan is probably two fold. The short term plan is to provide enuf of a distraction to allow V to escape. V isn't exactly chump change on the Important Power Players of the World Hierarchy. And if V escapes (and he and O'Chul do significant damage to Team Evil while doing so) then that is a net plus for the forces of good.*


    The longer term plan is probably much more important, however. It's clear that O'Chul has been working on the MitD's psyche for a long long time. So he is hoping that his example/actions will drive a wedge between the MitD and Team Evil. It's a wedge that might not be fully realized today or even tomorrow. But by planting the seed today, O'Chul is hoping that one day, perhaps in the distant future, perhaps not, the MitD will break with Team Evil.

    And from what we've seen of the raw power of the MitD, that would be a significant setback for their plans.

    Is O'Chul's plan going to work? We probably won't know for a good long while. But it's probably the best option that O'Chul had at handing Team Evil a huge setback. Even if it takes hundreds of strips to realize.

    * Well it would be if it weren't for the long term plans of the IFCC, but O'Chul doesn't know about that small detail.
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    Am I the only person who thinks that maybe the creature in the darkness will finally come out soon? Maybe because of something that happened during his time with Ochull?
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    Ohgoshohgoshogoshogosh!

    Definate twang from the heart strings there. Please don't die O-Chul! *sniff*
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    Well I know what I learned. Don't be a hero!
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    Quote Originally Posted by appending_doom View Post
    Nevertheless, it's a heartwarming moment in the relationship between man and beast (or man and man, as O-Chul, despite being a paladin, still has the OoTS-verse speciesism bred into him, and can't imagine a creature being good without having to make it human).
    You missed the point so much I can only hope this is sarcasm. In Start of Darkness a goblin high priest call Redcloak a man and I'm sure you could find dozens of other example in the comic. A man is not a term that apply only to human. Hell, one argument against human I often see in fantasy is their name «human, its like they think they are the only man around here». This is how most people define man and manliness.

    The point here wasnt that O-chul think the MiTD is a human, the point is that he think hes not a monster but an honorable person. Geez.
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    Can the MitD be an Good/Angel/Light Beeing w/ amnesia and an low INT? And the darkness desing as an form of restrain? That would be an good reason for his desire for light/sunburst. Or maybe our yeloww sun give him superpowers....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Porthos View Post
    His plan is probably two fold. The short term plan is to provide enuf of a distraction to allow V to escape. V isn't exactly chump change on the Important Power Players of the World Hierarchy. And if V escapes (and he and O'Chul do significant damage to Team Evil while doing so) then that is a net plus for the forces of good.*
    Problem: how on earth would he recognize V? Even Haley barely did, and she was the member of the Order closest to V. And what would possess him to think that distracting Xykon briefly will allow V to escape, when she's in the heart of a city controlled by Hobgoblins and patrolled by the Undead, and is in a terrible condition from her fight with Xykon? No, it doesn't seem logical for him to be trying that.

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    Server seems to be holding up pretty well.
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    Server seems to be holding up pretty well.
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    Nothing better than a new OotS comic just before I go to bed [over 10pm here]!
    I think this is the time that we've been waiting for.. MitD is going to reveal himself. And he actually remembered Mr. Stiffly's real name... nice.
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    O-Chul is the one who is acting as a paladin is supposed to act.

    I don't really want to speculate on what will happen next. O-Chul will probably die and V escape. Or they both die. But the MitD is on a good way on being a good guy. He called O-Chul on his name: it means he is coming to his senses?
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    Problem: how on earth would he recognize V?
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    Dun dun DUNNN!!!

    Well, the server seems to be running along swimmingly so far.

    And so begins about four to ten years of theories claiming "the MitD literally is "a good man" and the reveal will be anticlimactic because he's just an ordinary human".

    Hmm. Is it important that the demon roach just disappeared when O-Chul stabbed him?

    So, let's see. O-Chul thinks now is the time for action, when V has just been pwned by Xykon. He's going to do his duty, "my obligation to my dead comrades and my late Lord." And he's charging in with the bar as a spear like a jouster.

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    It seems obvious that he's out to take on Xykon, but if Uber-V couldn't topple Xykon O-Chul certainly can't. O-Chul may think Xykon is just weakened by using a lot of high-level spells and hopes that together with V they can at least slow him down. Or his real target is Redcloak or Tsukiko.

    Hmm... he mentioned his late Lord, and though he doesn't know the details he should know Shojo wasn't killed by Team Evil. Is he listening to his inner Miko and going out to finish off Vaarsuvius?
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    Time to put the new server to the test: A new OOTS on a Monday afternoon.
    Seems to be running well.

    The strip..
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    Rich, I don't think people say this often enough. You tell one hell of a story.

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    Hmm. Is it important that the demon roach just disappeared when O-Chul stabbed him?
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    After I finish this post, I shall observe a moment of silence for a good man. Whether he somehow survives this or not, he's more than earned the respect.

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    I think that the MITD might have just over come some kind of enfeeblement spell and may suddenly start acting a little more grown up!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaytara View Post
    Quick, one of the rules lawyers do the math here. Xykon's already been hurt pretty badly by V's spells and the backlash damage.... Does O-Chul have a chance to take him down with an Improvised Weapon Smite Evil Power Attack?
    Possible, but unlikely.

    If he has Leap Attack and some form of Pounce, he could theoretically deal
    [1d4 + (1.5*Str) + (4 *BAB) * (#of attack)] damage. This could be multiplied by something like Rhino's Rush (Paladin spell) or Battle Jump (Unapproachable East) or both. Plus he gets a bit more from Smite Evil, which can be bumped up significantly if he's using the PHBII alternate class feature (he doesn't seem to have a mount). Put that all together, and it could easily be enough to kill a wounded Xykon.

    But again, it's unlikely. When he fought Xykon in the throne room, he only had one attack when he Charged (and potentially just one attack per round, period). His To-Hit with an improvised weapon would be low, especially for iterative attacks. And O-Chul is a Fighter X/Paladin Y with poor Charisma, so he's not going to get a ton of extra damage from Smite Evil or mid to high level Paladin spells.

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    But destroying his Phylactery could definitely happen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zevox View Post
    Problem: how on earth would he recognize V? Even Haley barely did, and she was the member of the Order closest to V. And what would possess him to think that distracting Xykon briefly will allow V to escape, when she's in the heart of a city controlled by Hobgoblins and patrolled by the Undead, and is in a terrible condition from her fight with Xykon? No, it doesn't seem logical for him to be trying that.

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    V can fly out of the city fairly easily. Well, relatively easily at least. Well, hopefully relatively easily. At the very least, V could try to hide in the city and join up with the resistance (which O'Chul might know about).

    And even if O'Chul doesn't recognize V, the long term plan that I mentioned still stands. As for the short term plan, this is still an obviously high level wizard that doesn't like Xykon. So if he can help this stranger escape, then perhaps said wizard can live to fight another day.
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    Cool comic. "O'Chul!"

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    "They just brought the bucket around an hour ago."

    OMG!

    Thank goodness I can type while I can't see cause that line has my laughing so hard I am crying and can't read what happened after it!

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    You know, plotwise, O'Chul really should win. The whole Ultimate Arcane Power isn't everything would look nice with a side order of Paladin Winnage.
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    I think it's just O-Chul recognizing that this is his best chance to attack. A fully-powered Xykon would turn him into paste, but he might stand a chance against him now.

    And even if he doesn't, he might be attacking to give V a chance to escape. O-Chul might not remember who V is, but even if he doesn't, he probably thinks that anyone willing to take on Xykon is one of the good guys.

    In any case, he has very little to lose. I'd rather go down fighting than endure what O-Chul is put through every day.

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