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2009-06-05, 02:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Dragon Rider?
Hey all. I am a part time player, part time DM of 3.5 and I have been trying for a while now to figure out how to make Dragon Riders viable as a class/organization. I know I have always wanted to play a Rider and I have some friends who would love to play as well. Does anyone out here have any ideas for class rules or abilities I am working on one myself but am still trying to figure out how to post tables and such in the forums... sorry newbie to forums tech
Last edited by AzazelSephiroth; 2009-06-05 at 02:40 PM.
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2009-06-05, 02:46 PM (ISO 8601)
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They take levels in Ruathar to become more elvish.
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2009-06-05, 03:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-05, 04:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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I created a homebrewed cavalier class that is a modified version of the AD&D 1st edition cavalier.
You do not get to ride dragons until 16th level but you can ride other mounts before that in a more balanced progression.I am posting from my IPhone 90% of the time. Please forgive any spellcheck errors.
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2009-06-05, 04:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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There are plenty of dragonrider classes in various splatbooks, but the problem is that they usually make you ride a non-true dragon like a wyvern, because true dragons are so powerful that by the time it's big enough to carry you, you're epic. To that end, I suggest a feat idea cribbed from a Dragonlance sourcebook, that allows the creature to carry loads and riders as if it was one size larger. Once you have that in place you can just use the leardership feat, or Dragon Cohort (same deal but no followers and bigger dragon), or somesuch.
Actually, if you can get your hands on the Dragonlance sourcebooks they've got the most and most effective dragon riding support I've seen.Fizban's Tweaks and Brew: Google Drive (PDF), Thread
A collection of over 200 pages of individually small bans, tweaks, brews, and rule changes, usable piecemeal or nearly altogether, and even some convenient lists. Everything I've done that I'd call done enough to use in one place (plus a number of things I'm working on that aren't quite done, of course).
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2009-06-05, 04:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Including the Dragon Rider class, which gives you a Dragon cohort equal to your own level (instead of 2 lower), and also treats its ECL as 3 lower, for a dragon that's a total of 5 ECL above a normal cohort. It's much better than the Draconomicon "Dragonrider" class.
Other than that, the most effective ways to ride a dragon are probably:
- Share Spells + Polymorph on a familiar. Also if you make yourself really tiny you could do this at earlier levels by alter selfing a pseudodragon familiar into a wyrmling shadow dragon.
- Zhentarim Skymage (which is heavily abusable)
- Paladin/Beastmaster/Halfling Outrider that takes a dragon mount with the Dragon Mount feat (since there are some options with that feat exclusive to Paladins).
edit: itemized list
edit #2: the feat he alludes to is Mighty Steed from Bestiary of Krynn.Last edited by Emy; 2009-06-05 at 05:45 PM.
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2009-06-05, 07:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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There's an actual "Dragonrider" prestige class in Draconomicon as well.
Lessee...
*Add your class level to all checks to ride the danged thing
*Dragon's maneuverability improves by a step
*Immunity to Frightful Presence
*Bonus to concentration checks when casting spells while mounted
*A mount related bonus feat
*Free Flyby Attack
*Make a ride check to increase the dragons speed by 50%
*Two good saves, d10 HD and full BaB
Not too shabby, although it doesn't do much to help you get one of the bloody lizards to let you ride it in the first place.
I agree with Emy, the Dragonlance version is better, seeing as it gives you an actual dragon. This one kind of assumes you already have one.Last edited by Starscream; 2009-06-05 at 07:53 PM.
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2009-06-05, 07:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Apologies. Mistook the OP for a Eragon fanboy.
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2009-06-06, 12:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Thanks guys... I dont have the dragonlance but I have a friend who does. I will try checking it out.
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2009-06-06, 01:36 AM (ISO 8601)
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Draconomicon also has rules for dragon paladin mounts. They're workable, but it helps a lot to be small. It might be possible to have a mount your size and then magically enlarge it (is there a spell Enlarge Dragon?).
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2009-06-06, 02:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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FAQ is not RAW!Avatar by the incredible CrimsonAngel.
Saph:It's surprising how many problems can be solved by one druid spell combined with enough aggression.
I play primarily 3.5 D&D. Most of my advice will be based off of this. If my advice doesn't apply, specify a version in your post.
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2009-06-06, 02:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-06, 04:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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i lurve halfling outrider. I think that a requirement should be naming your dog.
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