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    Welcome to a new idea, from a guy who has some pretty dumb ideas. This time, it's lengthy and going to be highly overdone. What is it, you may query? Does it have anything to do with gardening?

    Yes. Yes it does.

    Say hello... to Heroes...

    Of... Gardening!

    Expect this to grow to retarded proportions in time. Suggestions are welcome.


    Special Rules:
    Gardens: A garden is considered to be, effectively, a Plant (Swarm) with no attack or move or similar characteristics, which has a number of hit dice equal to the Gardener Rank of it’s raiser. Attacking a garden requires a normal check similar to the one that would be made against a normal Plant (Swarm). Other attributes of a garden are determined by the plant in question.

    When a garden dies, it is not really dead - a few scant barely alive plants will still survive, and can survive on their own for 1d4 days, whereupon they are dead and the garden is truly deceased. This state is called “deadlined”.

    If a garden comes into contact with fire, it will take 1d4 damage per turn until the flames are extinguished. Furthermore, a garden killed by fire will have no surviving plants and cannot be saved.

    Healing: Healing a garden which has deadlined requires a successful Heal Garden check (DC 10 + garden’s negative health), after which it begins to regenerate at the rate of 1 per day.

    Planting: Planting a garden requires a Grow Garden check (DC determined by plant to be planted). Planting a garden takes a full day’s work, unless otherwise noted in the entry. Failure means that the plants won’t grow, will grow with worse hit points, or something along those lines, at the GM’s discretion.





    Character Classes:
    Botanist (Bot) - The botanist understands the ideal conditions for almost any plant he attempts to raise.
    Cheater (Cht) - The cheater specializes in sabatoge, though his means vary from lies to animals to fire.
    Empath (Emp) - Some consider the empath a little crazy, because he talks to plants, but his bond with them is special and deep.
    Green Thumb (Grn) - The green thumb is unusually good with plants, and knows their responses to an almost mystical extent.
    Watchman (Wmn) - Though he is a fair gardener, watchman’s true strength lies in his careful eye and light sleep.

    Botanist:
    The botanist is scientific, deliberate, and carefuly. His eye checks every fact twice, and he is difficult to trick. While many turn to more instinctive, more error filled, methods, the botanist watches his plants through the eye of science, and science alone.

    Characteristics: The botanist’s purpose is to raise plants in a fairly typical, simple, but functional, pattern. He is not skilled in fighting, and is much more a bookworm than a character active in intrapersonal strife. Botanists are excellent on the home front, though they know a thing or two about active combat as well.

    Backgrounds: Botanists are typically retired scientists, using the knowledge they gained to become well-known gardeners. Sometimes they’re up and coming young scientist, and others they’re not even scientists at all.

    Game Information:
    Hit Dice: d6
    Class Skills: The botanist’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Forgery (Int), Heal (Wis), Heal Garden (Wis), Grow Garden (Wis), Knowledge (Any) (Int), Open Lock (Dex), Search (Wis), Profession (Wis), and Use Weird Device (Int).
    The botanist gets 4 + Int Modifier skill points.

    Calculating Mind: At an after first level, as a full round action, the botanist can analyze a garden. He must make a Knowledge (botany) check (DC 10 + garden’s HD), and, if successful, gets a bonus equal to his Int modifier to the following made against the garden: healing rolls, attack rolls and growing rolls.
    Botanic Knowledge: At third level, the botanist gains the ability to use his Int instead of his Wis on Heal Garden, Grow Garden and Profession.
    Bookworm: At fifth level, the botanist can make a Knowledge (botany) to remove penalties to Grow Garden or Heal Garden due to an unfamiliarity with the type of plant in question.
    Adaptable Gardening: At sixth level, the botanist gets a +2 bonus on all Grow Garden checks to respond to new stimuli.
    Natural Chemicals:At eighth level, the botanist can spend ten dollars and make a successful Knowledge (botany) check (DC 20) to purchase a series of plants which can be used to create any of the following effects after one hour of work:
    Alcohol: Drinker must make a Fort save (DC 10 + botanist’s level + botanist’s Int) or take d2 Int and Cha damage for 2d10 hours.
    Firestarter: Can be used to begin a fire. After being lobbed (up to thrower’s Str times five feet), it collides with the ground and starts a fire.
    Hallucinogen: Drinker must make a Will save (DC 10 + botanist’s level + botanist’s Int) or take d3 Wisdom damage for twenty four hours.
    Plantkiller: Deals 1d6 damage/hour to gardens which have been soaked in it. Lasts for 1d6 hours, or until garden is washed with a hose.
    Poison: Drinker must make a Fort save (DC 10 + botanist’s level + botanist’s Int) or take d2 Constitution damage, which recovers at the rate of one per day.
    Perfect Botanist: At tenth level, the botanist can take his Knowledge (Botany) skill up five ranks higher than normal.


    Cheater:
    The cheater’s good at, well, cheating. He’s skilled at winning by default, destroying competition with violence, and generally just pissing all over “moral codes” and such. Sometimes the cheater isn’t even a bad guy - he just knows how to cheat.

    Characteristics: Cheaters are known for their unsavory methods of winning first and formost, but they have some skill at winning through more ordinary means - just not very much.

    Backgrounds: Cheaters generally lack much in the form of fitting a certain history. Some may be ex-cons, some may simply cheat because they can’t win otherwise, or anything that involves not being fair to others.

    Game Information:
    Hit Dice: d6
    Class Skills: The cheater’s class skills (and the key ability for each skill) are Bluff (Cha), Diplomacy (Cha), Disguise (Cha), Forgery (Int), Grow Garden (Wis), Hide (Dex), Intimidate (Cha), Listen (Wis), Move Silently (Dex), Open Lock (Dex), Profession (Wis), Sleight of Hand (Dex) and Spot (Wis).
    The cheater gets 4 + Int Modifier skill points.

    Archetype: At first level, the cheater chooses one of the following archetypes:
    Firestarter: A firestarter excels at destroying gardens by fire. He gains the following abilities:
    • Know Flame: A firestarter cheater can add his Int modifier to the damage dealt each turn by fire if he makes a successful class level check (DC 10 + garden’s HD).
    • Feed the Flames: At level five and beyond, the firestarter can feed a fire - this has the opposite effect of extinguishing a fire, and causes the fire to deal an additional dice of damage each turn that it is fed. It requires fuel.
    • Matchstick: At level ten and beyond, the firestarter can start a fire with only a matchstick of negligible cost. Normal people, when using matchsticks to begin such fires, typically allow them to become wetted in the process and therefore useless.
    Stray Handler: A dog handler can attract strays to destroy gardens by digging and such. He gains the following abilities:
    • Digdug: A stray handler can make a Handle Animal (DC 10 + garden’s HD) to attract stray dogs to the garden by use of meat. This takes between ten minutes to one hour, depending on the cheater’s skill. If successful, it attracts a number of dogs to the garden equal to the cheater’s class level, which will begin to dig up the garden and area around it. He also gets Animal Handler as a class skill.
    • Pet: At level five and beyond, a stray handler can gain a pet, which can be sent to destroy enemy gardens at his behest. The animal gains a number of hit dice equal to a third the stray handler’s cheater level, as well as associated bonuses (bonus to saves). He can only have one pet at a time.
    • Other Animals: Rather than attracting stray dogs, a stray handler can attract any vermin or animal with a CR of less than 2 when .
    Weedfiend: A weedfiend can plant weeds in his enemy’s gardens, thus reducing the growth and survivalability of the garden. He gains the following abilities:
    • Plant Weed: As an action taking one minute, a weedfiend can plant a square of weeds, which will, over the course of a week, grow to a number of hit dice equal to the weedfiend’s gardener rank. These weeds add the weedfiend’s cheater levels to the DC of all Grow Garden checks made on the garden they inhabit. They can be removed with a successful Grow Garden check (DC 10 + Cheater level) over the course of d12 hours.
    • Deep Weeds: At level five and beyond, a weedfiend can take ten minutes to plant weeds
    Sneaky SoB: At third level and after, the cheater can add his cheater levels to all Move Silently and Hide checks.
    Garden No More: At fourth level and after, the cheater gets a +1 bonus on all attack rolls versus enemy gardens. At eighth level, this bonus increases to a +2.
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    So... are you envisioning some sort of intriuge-filled story, with several rag-tag gardeners who put aside their differences to sabotage the snotty, perfect, rich guy's garden, and grow the best yams to win the blue ribbon at the State Fair, all the while beating back the people from the neighborhood association who don't really think yams look very good?

    Because, if so, that is remarkably cool.
    All the classes make sense. Which is cool.
    What are the rules for planting? Something akin to the Craft rules?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferahgo
    So... are you envisioning some sort of intriuge-filled story, with several rag-tag gardeners who put aside their differences to sabotage the snotty, perfect, rich guy's garden, and grow the best yams to win the blue ribbon at the State Fair, all the while beating back the people from the neighborhood association who don't really think yams look very good?

    Because, if so, that is remarkably cool.
    Yeah, something along those lines. I'm also thinking there will be simple conversions once complete to turn it into a D&D class or one of any of the other versatile d20 worlds, such as Star Wars or... uh... I forget.

    Examples of possible campaigns might include:
    • Exposing the thrice-in-a-row winner of the "biggest vegetable" contest as a filthy cheat, while working on protecting and improving their own gardens.
    • A group of botanists attempting to decode the growth patterns and faults of a new, fast-spreading breed of moss, accidentally brought in from some remote island before it overtakes the nation.
    • A few members of the pound who work to take down wild animals which have attacked their gardens.
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    What are the rules for planting? Something akin to the Craft rules?
    Ooh, thanks for pointing that out, rules for that added.
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    Wow. Like...WOW. I presume there are more coming?
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    Cheater's done. I'm not sure whether I'll do the empath or some work on the particular skills, plants and equipment of Heroes of Gardening.
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    You should give the Botanist more skill points. Yes, he should have high INT anyway, but he seems like a well read fellow...perhaps give him 2 points per level only to apply to Knowledge skills?
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    If you ever want to run a game of this in the PbP thread, I'd be so down.

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    Seconded. BTW, I forgot to mention how awesome this is.
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    If I might suggest basing the rules on D20 Modern, and thus making each of the gardeners and extension of the Modern base classes.

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    Out of curiosity, can Gardners not reach levels 11+, or do they simply have to take two separate classes until they (somehow) reach Epic?

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    If I were to make that decision, I would add a Gardening Epic level, where bards don't yet sing your praises in every city, but you're still a major player in the gardening world. Or a 20-level variant could be made.

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    If I may?

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    ...I can't believe I forgot about that comic. But how would that translate in a low-to-no supernatural world?

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    i'd take the cheater just for the flame abilities... my character is now a level three rougue and has a level in cheater... that class screams arsonist.

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    You know what's fishy about these being classified as Prestige Classes in other places? Neither of them have requirements, so you could take them at level 1. Which I think classifies them as Base Classes.

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    Composting. There should be a big benefit to composting.

    And some mention of frost dates and growing seasons. Someone should be able to construct greenhouses to combat natural weather patterns that might threaten a garden.

    Not all fertilizers are created equal. One of your classes (Botanist maybe?) should be able to determine what sort of chemicals should be added to the soil to amend it. Then it will take Alchemy checks to make or find the right stuff.

    Someone should also be able to construct garden devices that enhance the productivity of the garden. Sounds like a Watchman thing. Like tomato cages, trelis for beans, fences to keep out animals, and so on.

    Then there's the whole insect angle to explore. You can either take the ultra-chemical route with pesticides and such, or the ultra-naturalist route with praying mantises, ladybugs, and hand-removal.

    There should be modifiers, or some guideline for how big a garden a single character can manage.


    You know, if you got the rules for something like this all down and working, you could adapt it to farming pretty well too, by adding classes oriented around domestic animals and land management.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco_Ignifer
    Out of curiosity, can Gardners not reach levels 11+, or do they simply have to take two separate classes until they (somehow) reach Epic?
    At which point they get employment at national parks and such?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Draco_Ignifer
    Out of curiosity, can Gardners not reach levels 11+, or do they simply have to take two separate classes until they (somehow) reach Epic?
    The base classes of Heroes of Gardening are like the base classes in d20 Modern. They reach ten levels, then you branch out.
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