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    Default Intellegence based Character Classes

    I like playing characters with a good Intellegence. It is the easiest to roleplay for me, and I find it fun to have a character who can actually solve a puzzle. Since my DM frequently starts geshalt games, I am trying to come up with as many base classes that use Intellegence (primarily or secondarily) as possible.

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    Psychic Rogue
    Ranger (with Sword of the Arcane Order)
    Monk (with Kung-Fu Genius or Carmendine Monk)

    Please help me out here.
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    Default Re: Intellegence based Character Classes

    You have covered all of the ones I know.

    I'd also like to find a list of prestige classes that provide spellcasting on thier own accord who use INT as the primary stat. I'm not sure if there are any. They all appear to be WIS and CHA based to me. :(
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    Default Re: Intellegence based Character Classes

    The duelist prestige class gets intelligence to AC, as does the Bladesinger prc. (DMG, and Complete Warrior(?) respectively).

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    Default Re: Intellegence based Character Classes

    I'd add bard to that list. One of the bards role in the party is to know stuff and figure stuff out. All of the knowledge skills, decipher script, appraise and spellcraft rely on the intelligence stat.

    The rogue could also be included as they are a skill monkey class with a lot of intelligence based skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiyamato View Post
    I'd also like to find a list of prestige classes that provide spellcasting on thier own accord who use INT as the primary stat. I'm not sure if there are any. They all appear to be WIS and CHA based to me. :(
    The only one I can think of off the top of my head is Assassin.
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    Quote Originally Posted by holywhippet View Post
    I'd add bard to that list. One of the bards role in the party is to know stuff and figure stuff out. All of the knowledge skills, decipher script, appraise and spellcraft rely on the intelligence stat.

    The rogue could also be included as they are a skill monkey class with a lot of intelligence based skills.
    I am mainly trying to focus on classes that have Intellegence based class features, though rouge or bard would be a decent geshalting for extremely high skill points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo Demonsbane View Post
    I am mainly trying to focus on classes that have Intellegence based class features, though rouge or bard would be a decent geshalting for extremely high skill points.
    Bard does have an intelligence based class feature - bardic knowledge. Good as a "I didn't put points in the knowledge skill I need or might not have enough points" fallback option.

    Rogues partially do as well as only they can spot traps with a DC higher than 20 using search which is intelligence based.

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    Default Re: Intellegence based Character Classes

    bard sage from UA could fit for the "intelligent bard"

    WARBLADE!!! has an awesome int sinergy

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    You have great party buffs (2 auras+ 2 useful songs if you pick song of the white raven is delicious total of 4 buffs from weird sources), manuvers and a really good fighting style. gonna be fun :)
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    Isn't the dread necromancer int based?
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    For Gestalt:

    Duskblade has INT based Spellcasting, full BAB, d8 HD and Arcane Channel.

    Armored Mage only applies to duskblade spells, but Arcane channel can be use with every Range: Touch spell known.

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    INT: Spellcasting stat. (Higher Priority)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tidesinger View Post
    Isn't the dread necromancer int based?
    Nope, it's CHA-based.

    But Artificer is INT-based for its infusions.


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    Artificer
    Lurk
    Psychic Rogue
    Ranger (with Sword of the Arcane Order)
    Monk (with Kung-Fu Genius or Carmendine Monk)

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    Quote Originally Posted by holywhippet View Post
    Bard does have an intelligence based class feature - bardic knowledge. Good as a "I didn't put points in the knowledge skill I need or might not have enough points" fallback option.
    Similarly, the Cloistered Cleric variant from Unearthed Arcana. Similar in flavor to Archivist, but I think it involves less bookkeeping.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaiyamato View Post
    I'd also like to find a list of prestige classes that provide spellcasting on thier own accord who use INT as the primary stat.
    In addition to the already-mentioned Assassin, there's Trapsmith.
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    Rogues partially do as well as only they can spot traps with a DC higher than 20 using search which is intelligence based.
    Rogues also get Skill Mastery which depends on their Int bonus. By contrast, they don't actually get any Dex-based class features at all, just a bunch of Dex-based skills on their class list.

    Cloistered Clerics are still Wis-based, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chronos View Post
    By contrast, they don't actually get any Dex-based class features at all, just a bunch of Dex-based skills on their class list.
    What? Evasion and Uncanny Dodge are Dex-based.
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    Abstract positioning, either fully "position doesn't matter" or "zones" or whatever, is fine. If the rules reflect that. Exact positioning, with a visual representation, is fine. But "exact positioning theoretically exists, and the rules interact with it, but it only exists in the GM's head and is communicated to the players a bit at a time" sucks for anything even a little complex. And I say this from a GM POV.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goatman_Ted View Post
    Artificer
    Lurk
    Psychic Rogue
    Ranger (with Sword of the Arcane Order)
    Monk (with Kung-Fu Genius or Carmendine Monk)
    Thank you, this was just what I was looking for! I cant believe I missed Artificer, I knew there were some others.

    Anything else, or is that it?

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    Erudite from Complete Psionic works off of Intelligence.

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    For those with Arcana Evolved or its predecessor,Arcana Unearthed,it has two spellcasting classes (magisters & runethanes) that are Intelligence based.
    The unfettered's parry attacks class feature is also INT-based.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Southern Cross View Post
    For those with Arcana Evolved or its predecessor,Arcana Unearthed,it has two spellcasting classes (magisters & runethanes) that are Intelligence based.
    The unfettered's parry attacks class feature is also INT-based.
    What pages are they on in UA? I have never been able to find those classes. :P
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    What pages are they on in UA? I have never been able to find those classes. :P
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    Is the irony of the topic name and the ease of playing intelligent characters apparent to anyone else.

    The only intelligence based class I've played are rouges but thats my way of playing them and more int = more skill points.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dhavaer View Post
    Arcana Unearthed, not Unearthed Arcana.
    Oh yeah.. switcheroo... lol.
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    Arcana Unearthed, not Unearthed Arcana.
    The fact that this problem exists at all makes me facepalm.

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    Another class worth remembering is warlock. It isn't really anything-based (slightly dex and cha, but you don't need them). It makes a nice gestalt complement to any caster or skillmonkey.

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