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Thread: Sneak Attack- Undead
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2009-06-25, 03:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Sneak Attack- Undead
I'm curious (and a little desperate to continue to be relevant to the 15th level game I've been in the last few years as a rogue)- are there any feats, classes, items, etc, that allow one to sneak-attack undead? Anywhere? Ever?
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2009-06-25, 03:29 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
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2009-06-25, 03:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
The best option specifically to fight undead is the Skullclan Hunter prestige class (Miniatures Handbook). Once you get 2 levels of that you can sneak attack undead.
A couple of alternative class features are also good bets:- Penetrating Strike (Dungeonscape) - trade trap sense to do 1/2 normal sneak attack damage against those normally immune, but only when you flank them.
- Death's Ruin (Complete Champion) - trade trap sense to do 1/2 normal sneak attack damage against undead.
You can also use Grave Strike, a 1st level Cleric spell, to allow sneak attack against undead for 1 round. It's a swift action spell. The Rules Compendium updated the trigger time to match the normal casting time, so Use Magic Device and a wand will allow one round of sneak attack. But you can also buy wands with metamagic feats pre-applied, and Extend Spell only bumps this up to 2nd level.
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2009-06-25, 08:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
As Curmudgeon already pointed out, Skullclan Hunter is great if you know you're going to fight a lot of undead. Not only does Sneak Attack apply to Undead, but it automatically applies to undead on every attack (no need for flanking or denied Dex). The pre-reqs to get in suck though, and it doesn't offer much in terms of non-anti-undead class features.
Anywho, three wands, one each of Gravestrike, Vinestrike, and Golemstrike is all you really need (all in Spell Compendium). If you're a strait Rogue build, then the Savvy Rogue feat from Complete Rogue will let your Crippling Strike Special Ability apply against immune creatures as well.
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2009-06-25, 11:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
Also the spell Grave Strike (CAdv p150) [Clr1 Pal1] – Swift. You can Sneak Attack Undead for 1 round.
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2009-06-25, 11:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
Greater Truedeath Crystal - MiC - is the best method, IMO.
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2009-06-25, 12:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-25, 12:12 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
Magic Item Compendium also has a weapon enchantment that allows sneak attack on undead. its a +1 bonus enchant the has a prerequisite of a seperate +1 enchant.
ghost touch weapon (+1)
ghost strike? weapon (+1) (requires ghost touch)
I'm away from my books or I'd look it up.Doug
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2009-06-25, 01:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
Thank you all- This is very helpful.
For your information, my gal is formerly a Rogue11/Shadowdancer 1/Bard 2, and we just leveled in time for this Saturday's game. I have just reworked her to be Rogue 11/Bard 3/Virtuoso 1, with Shadow Striker to cover the whole constant-sneak-attack thing she had from spamming Hide in Plain Sight, Focused Performer, Focused Performance, and Requiem filling in the new feats/feats freed up from that Shadowdancer level. My other feats are Improved Feint, Weapon Finesse and (from taking a bonus feat instead of a special ability) Chaos Music- my gal's not human.
We have also just recently gotten a huge trove of loot that we hadn't seen in several levels, so one or more of these items is no longer out of the question.
Overall, that Truedeath thing sounds most interesting, although if I shuffle some skillpoints into Use Magic Device those wands might be the cheapest alternative.
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2009-06-25, 08:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-26, 01:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-06-26, 01:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Sneak Attack- Undead
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