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2009-07-09, 01:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
My DM wants me to play a Fochlucan Lyrist, but I have no clue how to build one, or play one. I'm still new to DnD, so if a kind person out there would give me some advice on optimizing a 10th level 3.5 Fochlucan Lyrist, I'd be in your debt forever!
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2009-07-09, 01:25 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
Your DM wants you to...what? Since when have DMs decided their players' characters? Anyways, uh, you're in for a chore. Evasion is the hardest to get unless your DM allows for item qualification (Ring of Evasion). Second best option is being Shadow creature (it's a Template in Lords of Madness that can grant Evasion).
Other than that, you need Druid-levels and Bard-levels. You could get DM to allow Loremaster to qualify for Bardic Knowledge (since Lore is the same ability), you could use Wizard-entry making for a fine base character in Druid/Wizard. Then you just must decide which side of your casting is primary, take 1 level in the other class and rest in the other (with Loremaster for qualificaiton, along with any other PrCs you can fit in) and go to town.
That, or Dominate a level 1 Druid to teach you Druidic, making him ex-Druid in the process. This allows you to enter as a Cleric or an Archivist instead (of course Ur-Priest is the best divine side, but it's a tad cheesy). Sublime Chord is a great arcane side, but that means you can't enter before level 11. So yeah, good luck. It won't be easy.Campaign Journal: Uncovering the Lost World - A Player's Diary in Low-Magic D&D (Latest Update: 8.3.2014)
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2009-07-09, 01:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
Don't break the Oath!!!
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This one time, I met this odd-chap in a top hat and make-up. He ate my soul...
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2009-07-09, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-09, 01:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
You must realize that you can't get into Lyrist before 11; which level is the game on? Which books are available? What exact base combination of casting do you want? Obviously Lyrist is a combination of the castings that lead into it, so choose wisely.
Threw together a stub for you:
Shadow Creature or Ring of Evasion, race open
Bard 1/Wizard 5/Mindbender [Complete Arcane] 1/Ur-Priest [Complete Divine] 2/Fochlucan Lyrist 1/Sublime Chord 1/Sublime Chord +9
If you don't want to mindrape a Druid, you could replace Mindbender with Druid but seeing that you're evil anyways, raping peoples' minds should be ok (although Raping Peoples' Minds Is Ok).
You use Primary Contact [Cityscape] to get an extra rank in Perform: String Instruments to enter a level early.Last edited by Eldariel; 2009-07-09 at 01:42 PM.
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2009-07-09, 01:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
Just as an idea of how hard it's likely to be - the class is 'inspired by' the 1st edition Bard rules.
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2009-07-09, 01:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fochluch Lyrist Help!!
I just realized that my stub suffers of a serious case of MAD in needing Int for Wizard-casting and skills, Wis for Ur-Priest (and Druid)-casting, Cha for Sublime Chord and Bard-casting, Dex for AC and to hit, and Con for HP. So uh, if you wanna try it, better have insane stats.
That said, Fochlucan Lyrist is going to have a serious case of MAD pretty much no matter what (like, using Archivist for divine casting and Wizard for arcane might work, or going Sublime Chord/Favored Soul but that requires a whole lot of other loopholes to jump through).Last edited by Eldariel; 2009-07-09 at 01:58 PM.
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SRD Averages - An aggregation of all the key stats of all the monster entries on SRD arranged by CR.