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    Default (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Hey I'm currently building a character for an upcoming campaign and I plan on making him an Archivist, so naturally I want his int mod to be through the roof.

    My DM is letting our group have races / templates that have a max LA of +2, so I'm wondering if any of you guys can think of a good race that gives a high bonus to int (like at least +4), that has an LA of +2 or less.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Grey Elf, Monster Manual, gives +2 and that's pretty much all I know.

    Drow may get something, and they are LA+1.
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Is that 'free' LA (as in, it doesn't actually change the amount of XP your character needs/the amount of real levels you have) or just that you can take up to LA +2 if you want to, but it'll use the standard rules? If it's the first, you'd be crazy not to take advantage of it; the Phrenic Creature template is pretty awesome. If it's the second, it's a trap and you should be a Gray Elf- no amount of Int is worth two real class levels for a fullcaster.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    I don't know any template worth mentioning.

    Races... Gray Elf [MMI] (+2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Con, -2 Str) and Fire Elf [UA] (+2 Dex, +2 Int, -2 Con, -2 Cha) have no LA

    Quote Originally Posted by Pharaoh's Fist View Post
    Grey Elf, Monster Manual, gives +2 and that's pretty much all I know.

    Drow may get something, and they are LA+1.
    Drow get +2 Int, +2 Cha, +2 Dex and -2 Con (among other things) for +2 LA


    /E: Your best bet would be a Grey or Fire Elf, with the Phrenic Creature Template xD
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    The free La +2 mentioned does not count towards my XP total, so if I were say level 9, with a +2 LA race, then I would still be ECL 9.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    So Phrenic Gray Elf.
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    So Phrenic Gray Elf.
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    I'd go with Phrenic Fire Elf myself, but that's because I'd rather use Cha as a penalty stat instead of Str.
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Full caster and LA does not mix. Go Gray Elf.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Quote Originally Posted by Callista View Post
    Full caster and LA does not mix. Go Gray Elf.
    Unless the LA is free. Which in this case it is.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Saint? Archivist bonus spells are based on wisdom, and extra charisma is good for a DMM Sacred Exorcist dip. Also, once you buy a monk belt, that's double Wisdom to AC.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    Deep Imaskari +2 Int –2 Dex LA=0
    Sharakim +2 Str +2 Int –2 Dex –2 Cha LA=+1
    Fire Hobgoblin +2 Dex +2 Con +2 Int –2 Cha LA=+1
    Chitine +2 Dex +2 Con +2 Int –4 Cha LA=+2
    Tiefling +2 Dex +2 Int –2 Cha LA=+1
    Satyr +2 Dex +2 Con +2 Int +2 Wis +2 Cha LA=+2

    Maybe you can combine a race with a LA<2 with the template of Voidmind (Str +4 Dex +2 Con +2 Int +2 Cha –2 LA=+1) but there are some serius drawbacks...

    There are some templates with LA=+3 with +4 Int but...
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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    I'll agree that Phrenic Gray Elf is probably your best choice for an Int bonus. It grants a host of psi-like abilities, which are automatically augmented fully for free, plus power/spell resistance depending on transparency and all the elf racial abilities. A venerable Phrenic Dragonwrought Kobold is probably the only thing that gets a higher Int bonus for a +2 LA, and it's a lot of cheese for only another +1.

    I'd go with better overall utility/power, such as a Shadow Creature (LoM) Gray Elf.

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    Default Re: (3.X) Races with + to Int?

    If the DM allows homebrew races, my Fenneckin race gets +2 to Int and Dex for -2 to Str and Cha: http://forum.mydndgame.com/index.php...0.html#msg6400 .
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