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Thread: Fun with an Immovable Rod
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2009-07-20, 10:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Fun with an Immovable Rod
One of my friends, doubting the awesome might that is an immovable rod, is of the opinion that an immovable rod is useless as anything other than a door jam or a single stepping stone if used in quantities less than two. So, tell me, what creative things have you/would you do with a single immovable rod?
Last edited by jagadaishio; 2009-07-20 at 10:37 PM.
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2009-07-20, 10:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Question: what happens when an unmovable rod meets an unstoppable wand?
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2009-07-20, 10:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
I made a character for a 1 time session that revolved largely around arial combat.
Nothing says awesome like activating a immobile rod while being pursuit only to watch the rider of the opposing dragon (or even the dragon itself) slam into it full force.
ah good times.
Alternately, you can jump, activate, acrobatic jump, activate again. Until you reach the sky ;p
Fun for rouges with the drop cut or for snipers.
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2009-07-20, 11:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
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2009-07-20, 11:21 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
A particularly crafty rogue can perch from one while invisible to snipe his enemies in to oblivion, while remaining out of range of scary swords and such.
Additionally, binding someone behind their back to the non-button end and then pushing the button. While hanging off a cliff.
The possibilities are ENDLESS."So Marbles, why do they call you Marbles?"
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2009-07-20, 11:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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This is only a bit of DM fluff, but you could make a castle (tower) with an all important weight focal point that keeps up the castle up. So your tower is taken by enemy forces, So what? You simply deactivate the rod and watch the tower crush your foes to death, EVERYONE'S HAPPY!!!
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2009-07-20, 11:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Get eaten by a dragon or any large+ monster that engulfs. Activate and escape.
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2009-07-21, 12:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Alternate on someone else's:
Activate to black a charge.
You can hang a rope from it to rappel up (if you're really good with a ranged weapon to hit the button) or down a cliff. Use it to hold up the ceiling so your adventurers are crushed if they try to take it. Someone said acrobatic jumps up, but if done right, it might slow a fall, might need a roll to do it.
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2009-07-21, 12:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
You would likely need more then one, as an immovable rod can 'only' support 8000 pounds.
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2009-07-21, 12:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-21, 12:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
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2009-07-21, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
The problem with the immovable rod is that it requires a move action to activate/deactivate, so you can't really do much in the way of acrobatics.
However, with a homebrew "activating rods is a free action" thing (which kind of makes sense; pressing a button doesn't take as much time as running a few dozen feet), it would be awesome.
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2009-07-21, 12:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-21, 12:58 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-21, 01:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Ironically enough, not really.
Think of an Arch, the only forces present on the keystone is the downward pull of gravity, which in turn puts an outward force on the corners of the arch / stones. The break down of this comes to the downward but horizontal thrust of forces on the arch. So theoreticaly it could be possible to do the Keystone + Rod trick, however holding up the keystone wouldnt make much sense, as gravity / friction / mortar does the job just find.
Setting off a charge (Explosive Runes) on a Keystone would more than likely be the best option.
Now if were talking about Box's that is a whole different lesson.
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2009-07-21, 01:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
As an engineer (seriously) I can say that one could make an immovable rod support a keystone brick that holds a structure together. Perhaps not the traditional archway keystone (I havn't done a FBD or any other "Knowledge (Engineering)" tasks) but definately possible.
Think of a mouse trap, and how much less force is required to hold the hold-down-bar than to hold the spring-loaded-mouse-killer-bar.
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2009-07-21, 01:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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For the keystone trick, it would have to be rectangular, instead of the normal shape of a keystone (trapezoid? not sure on this). Or even upside-down from its normal shape/position for a guaranteed success.
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2009-07-21, 03:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
You can use it to fall from very high up, just continuously activate and deactivate it until you're on the ground.
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2009-07-21, 03:59 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
You can do a keystone/rod combo.
20,000 pound stone (yes, I know it's more than 8,000 pounds)
Weight split evenly between 2 architectural supports, and the rod (6667 or so pounds on each).
Architectural supports are able to support 8000 pounds. Any greater amount, and they'll (bow out/collapse in), allowing the keystone to fall, and then collapsing the structure. (Onset delay trap - 2 round delay, Never miss feature, cave-in)
Now, as long as the rod's in place, everything's fine. As soon as the rod is removed, each support must support 10,000 pounds, which it cannot do.
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2009-07-21, 04:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
The unstoppable wand bounces off the immovable rod and changes direction without altering its momentum.
Which is physically impossible, which is why there's no such thing... >.>
(Alternatively, the unstoppable wand exerts more than 8,000 pounds of force and the immovable rod turns out to not be quite so immovable.)
You can only press the button once per round, as it's a standard action..
You fall 150 feet in the first round and 300 in the second.
You would rip your arms out of their sockets. :P
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2009-07-21, 04:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Fire it out of a bow at someone who is running at you, button first. If it hits, it will stop them, and probably hurt.*
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2009-07-21, 04:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Teach him a lesson by shoving the Rod up his character's arse and activating it.
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2009-07-21, 04:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
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2009-07-21, 04:50 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
1. Get the rogue to sneak into the sleeping dragon's lair while it is asleep on it's horde.
2. Have him tie it's tale to the rod.
3. Proceed to loot quietly.
4. If/When the dragon awakes, run, then momentarily look back to laugh and ridicule.
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2009-07-21, 05:09 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
5. Then proceed to bleed and cry as you realise the dragon is eating you after he has pressed the button to the rod.
BTW, i find the rules quite stupid.
The rod cannot hold a 8000 lbs rock.
An adult dragon can carry a 8000 lbs rock.
An adult dragon can drag along 5 x 8000 lbs rock.
But an adult dragon cannot move the rod.Last edited by MichielHagen; 2009-07-21 at 05:15 AM.
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2009-07-21, 05:27 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
He can make a DC 30 strength check to move it 10 feet in a round. Which if he can do the above feats of lifting, he could do easily. So hoard snatcher isn't quite as safe as he may think.
Last edited by Ravens_cry; 2009-07-21 at 05:28 AM.
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2009-07-21, 06:04 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-21, 06:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
Does that factor in the bonus that a dragon gets by virtue of being a quadruped?
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2009-07-21, 07:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-07-21, 07:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Fun with an Immovable Rod
To keep people in the same spot, cut a hole in their stomach, place the rod inside, activate it, then cast regeneration on them. They can never move.
BANG → !
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