[3.5] How Will The Mighty Be Felled?

[zarakstan]

This is a challenge to see who can design a party of 4 all 1st level characters, 28 point buy, average starting wealth, and defeat a CR 6 monster (from core).

Rules:

• As stated above, you must be 28 point buy
• You must be all core except for one book
• Your party will consist of 4, 1st level characters
• You will have average starting wealth
• You will be pitted against 3 randomly determined CR 6 monster from the MM1
• No infinite loops, no diplomacy
• Between each encounter you will heal up to full and any items used will be returned to you

Signup:

Signup here, when you do so link to all four of your character sheets. In due course we will then stage you in a PBP, predetermined, arena. There Djinn_In_Tonic will play the part of the monsters.

Signups:
Party 1.
Party 2.
Party 3.

Hall of Fame:

Defeated 1 monster:


Defeated 2 monsters:


Won:

[Pharaoh's Fist]

If one of us chooses to be a Ranger, what do we do about Favored Enemy?

[arkol]

Shouldn't this be in the finding players section?

That being said.... I'm in, no idea with what, but I'm in.

Also what happens if one of the 4 guys dies in one of the fights? Will he be ressurrected in the following match?

What about the last match? Can everyone but one guy die?

Can all characters be the same?

What about class features that have limited uses (spells and rage for exemple)? Replenished before each fight?

What about preparing spells? Do we prepare after or before knowing what we're fighting?

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

I'll be polite. The Favored Enemy you select will always be treated as the type of the monster in question, or the monster of your choice if multiple monsters are present.

Also, I'll allow Core and any single other book. Obvious cheese like power word, pain, Pun-Pun, things relying on other planar entities, spells commonly considered to powerful, and the like. Characters should be made to be normal 1st level characters in a normal 1st level game: don't specifically optimize for more powerful encounters, as that defeats the purpose.

[ZeroNumerous]

I may as well offer to help with a Crusader.

[arkol]

I edited lots of questions in my first post which apparently got missed... ugh ONE other book makes this a nightmare of building.... ONEother book for each character or for everyone?

[ZeroNumerous]

ONE other book for each character or for everyone?

I assume for each person.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Also what happens if one of the 4 guys dies in one of the fights? Will he be ressurrected in the following match?

He's back in the next match. The goal is to win 1 fight against a number of CR 6 "BBEGs." Dying is fine.

What about the last match? Can everyone but one guy die?

See above.

Can all characters be the same?

Nope. This seems a little like pre-planning for the high encounter level to me.

What about class features that have limited uses (spells and rage for exemple)? Replenished before each fight?

Yes.

What about preparing spells? Do we prepare after or before knowing what we're fighting?

That's up to me. I'll tell you if you have foreknowledge of the next fight.

One extra book per person.

And yes, one other book does mess things up a bit. I'm allowing it, however, so that we can get some different base classes, not so you can cherry-pick the most powerful and unbalanced races, feats and spells. I'll know the difference, trust me.

[Fitz]

is that 1 person doing a group of 4, of 4 doing 1 character each?
Fitz

[arkol]

Each person does a 4-man party.

[ZeroNumerous]

Each person does a 4-man party.

I'd like a shot with 4 people and 1 character each as well. A control test, if you will.

[Tempest Fennac]

I'm considering entering (I'll probably use a Halfling Swordsage if I do). How many Flaws* are allowed and would it be okay if I posted my character's stats on here rather then making a sheet? (I find character sheets take longer to make then just making them with Notepad does).


*Weapon Finesse still has a +1 BAB Prequisite, right?

[Fitz]

id be happier as 1 character in a party, but will see what is prefered.
Will work out a support cleric in case a multi player is on the cards.
Fitz

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

I'd like a shot with 4 people and 1 character each as well. A control test, if you will.

I'd prefer this. It's more exemplary of an actual game, and thus a better example.

I'm considering entering (I'll probably use a Halfling Swordsage if I do). How many Flaws* are allowed and would it be okay if I posted my character's stats on here rather then making a sheet? (I find character sheets take longer to make then just making them with Notepad does).


*Weapon Finesse still has a +1 BAB Prequisite, right?

No flaws, and yes, WF does still have the +1 Prerequisite. Stats here is fine...it would actually be slightly easier for me.

[arkol]

What if we choose unerthed arcana has our outside source? Could we choose flaws then?

Fitz Zero and Fennec, you guys up for a party of 4?

[Eldariel]

Sign me up for Druid/Druid/Wizard/Wizard party. I assume Familiar needs to be purchased?

[Tempest Fennac]

I'm fine for being in a party of 4. I just need to work out how to build my character. (I was going to take Shadow Blade with a Flaw and Weapon Finesse so I'd only need Dex for melee attacks.)

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

What if we choose unerthed arcana has our outside source? Could we choose flaws then?

Fitz Zero and Fennec, you guys up for a party of 4?

No. Unearthed Arcana is not acceptable, as that's simply full of house rules.

Things I will allow from outside sources (any WotC printed, non-Dragon Magazine 3.5 source):

-A single LA +0 race (non-Illumian)
-No more than a single feat
-No more than 2 spells
-A base class and the associated rules (including relevant feats/spells/abilities)
-1 Racial Variant level

[arkol]

Swarm them with summns Eldariel?

If the other 2 guys are in, I'm also in with some sort of archer.

Keep away and keep pestering them with arrows I always say....

Either human ranger or something with dex bonus fighter.... sugestions welcomed....

[Human Paragon 3]

Do you count the whole SRD as core? It includes unearthed arcana and expanded psionics handbook.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Do you count the whole SRD as core? It includes unearthed arcana and expanded psionics handbook.

We've established no Unearthed Arcana. Psionics I will allow as part of Core.

[Tempest Fennac]

Arcane Swordsages count as being too cheesy for this, right?

[Pharaoh's Fist]

Druids are the answer

[ZeroNumerous]

Fitz Zero and Fennec, you guys up for a party of 4?

Sure. I'm thinking an Orc Crusader who deals lots of damage and looks impressive but has no actual substance. All rage and fury signifying nothing, if you will.

Basically: I intend to be the guy who dies first.

Druids are the answer

How'd you get augment summoning?

[Eldariel]

arkol: My idea was to make them fail one save and yeah.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

Arcane Swordsages count as being too cheesy for this, right?

Yes. No variant rules, por favor.

[arkol]

http://www.myth-weavers.com/sheetvie...sheetid=145710

my archer is ready. C'mon guys, let's beat the crap out of that 5headed-pyro-hydra, Annis Hag, Girallon, Shambling Mound, Advanced Megarator Skeleton, Xill or average Xorn.

[Djinn_in_Tonic]

How'd you get augment summoning?

Good question. How did you get augment summoning?

[Pharaoh's Fist]

My mistake, forgot to compensate for a change in races. (Was originally human)

[AstralFire]

If there is space in the party of 4 control group, I would perhaps like in.

Psion or Wilder, Elan or Human. Unsure yet.