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2009-08-12, 03:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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A quick question about Arcane Thesis
I'm Building a character who specializes in metmagicd fireballs, and i have a simple question.
Does the arcane thesis subtract one from the level of every meta magic feat (would it drop +1's to same levels) or just remove one added level total?
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2009-08-12, 04:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A quick question.
It can be read either way, but most naturally to my eyes it applies to each metamagic feat applied. That's good, but not too broken so long as you limit it to a minimum of +0 per feat. Where it's been abused is by combining high-cost metamagics with a bunch of +0 metamagics, so that the +0s become -1s and offset things like Quicken.
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2009-08-12, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A quick question.
Post-errata, the feat allows you to apply it once to each metamagic feat, even for a negative adjustment, as long as the final spell slot is no lower than the original, so with the fireball example you could cast an energy substituted (cold) (-1) silent (+1) fireball as a 3rd level spell, but an energy substituted (cold) fireball is still 3rd level.
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2009-08-12, 04:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A quick question.
It applies to each metamagic feat; the errata adds an example that says so explicitly.
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2009-08-12, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: A quick question.
Yes, it applies to each metamagic feat separately, but it can't be used to make the final spell level lower than the original. See the PHB2 errata.
Originally Posted by PHB2 Errata
Last edited by RTGoodman; 2009-08-12 at 04:14 PM.
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