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Thread: Seeing through magical fog?
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2009-08-12, 07:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Seeing through magical fog?
Last session my group and I entered a tower and set off a Guards and Wards, and now virtually everyone can't see anything. I have 30ft blindsight, but everyone else is pretty much just screwed. Are there any magical items/spells to see through magical fog? (the latter being more pertinent, the former being something we should all go out and purchase as soon as we get a chance).
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2009-08-12, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Blindsense, Tremorsense
Synesthete psionic power ("see sound")
Gust of Wind, depending on the type of fog
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2009-08-12, 08:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Well as for items I seem to remember a cloak form the far corners of the world web articles that keeps fog and such from blocking the wearers sight. Let me see if I can dig that up.
Edit: Here we go http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/fw/20050311a
Also the blindfold of true darkness or whatever it was called from the magic item compendium.Last edited by olentu; 2009-08-12 at 08:06 PM.
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2009-08-12, 08:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Dispel the magical fog as per the description of the Guards and Wards spell.
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2009-08-12, 09:32 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Ring of X-Ray vision? May be a bit of overkill...
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2009-08-12, 09:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Dispel or gust of wind.
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2009-08-13, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
My DM said True Seeing sees through fog. True Seeing + Freedom of Movement (can move through unhindered) essentially negating any fog's non-damaging aspects.
Edit: He said it as an official (RAW) ruling, but I hadn't seen that myself anywhere.Last edited by JeenLeen; 2009-08-13 at 07:43 AM.
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2009-08-13, 08:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
If the fog is an illusion, True Seeing would let you see through it.
If the fog is a conjuration or transmutation, it would not. Because the fog is really there.We are not standing on the shoulders of giants, but on very tall tower of other dwarves.
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2009-08-13, 09:49 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
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2009-08-13, 09:56 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
I'd agree with dispersion via a wind spell, or perhaps destroying whatever created the magical fog...You must remember that the guards probably have the same disadvantage as you. If not, then once you kill a few, some of them should at least have some kind of item that helps them see through that fog. Or else it would be pointless as the guards must have the advantage over the intruders...
At least that's probably what's going on...if the DM is feeling evil he might say that a cleric or wizard cast the spell on each guard...in which case destroying the wards (which would probably regenerate the fog if you dispersed it) might be the way to go..."God does not play dice with the universe; He plays an ineffable game of his own devising, which might be compared, from the perspective of any of the other players, to being involved in an obscure and complex version of poker in a pitch dark room, with blank cards, for infinite stakes, with a dealer who won't tell you the rules, and who smiles all the time." (Good Omens - Terry Pratchett)
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2009-08-14, 05:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
We've tried to Greater Dispel the fog, 4 times, to no avail (high caster whoever did it). True seeing specifically doesn't see through fogs. And as of yet it seems there's only one occupant in the tower, so he's gonna be crazy-hard to find. I did notice Dragon Sight (I believe) in the Spell compendium. Darkvision 10ft/caster level (not helpful here) but Blindsense 5ft/caster level (yay!). So that's helpful at least.
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2009-08-15, 04:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Summon(Nature's Ally, Monster, or Elemental) for an Air Elemental. Use Whirlwind. That should deal with the fog.
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2009-08-15, 06:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
AMF should suppress the G&W effects around you, if you really want to go that far.
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2009-08-15, 06:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-15, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Never said it was the best of options, but in a pinch, it world work! It would also supress any magical traps that happen to be lurking in the fog. OP said he wanted to see, never said how far!
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2009-08-15, 07:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Yeah, unless there's a store that has rush (1 round) delivery on a Cloud Cloak, it's pretty tough to see through fog.
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2009-08-15, 09:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
blindsight is the way to go. Basicly means you can see when you can't see.
Listening lorecall spell grants blindsight if target has 10 ranks in listen.
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2009-08-15, 11:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Doesn't Listening Lorecall suck now? I was under that impression.
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2009-08-16, 11:19 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
if you want to be able to see through fog and happen to have 10 ranks in listen, its the perfect spell.
It might be a little specific for general use, but for the right character in this situation it might be just what he needs.
Unless you can think of a spell that does the same thing at the same spell level without requiring the listen ranks, I don't see why it sucks in this situation.
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2009-08-16, 11:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Seeing through magical fog?
Listening Lorecall with 10 ranks of Listen gives blindsense 30', which means a 50% miss chance against everything. But 2 more ranks of Listen also gives blindsight 15', which means effective melee combat. Big difference for a couple of skill ranks.