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    Dwarf in the Playground
     
    Flumph

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    Default [4.0] Best 22 point buy & race for artificer?

    So, 4.0, a friend has a doubt regarding the creation of the pj.

    22 system buy (stats base are 10,10,10,10,10,8)

    He had considered human & dwarf, but he thinks that not having a 18 in int is going to hurt him a bit.

    As a dwarf: 16,14(16),14(16),13,10,8
    As a human: 16(18),14,14,13,10,8

    (int, wis, con, dex, str, cha)

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    Default Re: [4.0] Best 22 point buy & race for artificer?

    obligatory guide link.

    My personal preference out of the +int racs is Eladrin for Eladrin Soldier and such, though human is never a bad choice. Dwarf is thematically nice, but not as useful as being human, eladrin or deva imo.

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    Default Re: [4.0] Best 22 point buy & race for artificer?

    Deva.

    +int and +wis.

    Edit: Assuming he wants to be the summoner version of Githiyanki... since they are the ONLY race to get +con and +int.
    Last edited by NPCMook; 2009-08-12 at 10:29 PM.

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    MonkGuy

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    Default Re: [4.0] Best 22 point buy & race for artificer?

    Dwarf should be fine. As long as he's got a 16, he can make do.

    Now, the extra +1 is definitely nice, and if he's an optimizing type, he'll probably want it. Human is my usual pick there, but deva is excellent too. It'd be beneficial to pick a +int race.

    But if he wants a dwarf, the benefit is not so great that he should avoid playing a dwarf. 4e isn't like 3e; there really isn't a race/class combination that's outright bad because of stats. (Other things, yes -- halfling barbarians are at a bit of a disadvantage due to their size -- but not stats.) Some are better than others at a given class, but any character with at least a 16 primary is viable.
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    Default Re: [4.0] Best 22 point buy & race for artificer?

    Quote Originally Posted by Thorin View Post
    He had considered human & dwarf, but he thinks that not having a 18 in int is going to hurt him a bit.
    It is, but note that he could go 18,13(15),13(15),10,10,8. You'll have a 16 in a secondary by level four, which should not be a problem.

    But yeah, I would recommend eladrin, deva, or shadar-kai, or any +int race in general.
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