4e Wins Many ENnie Awards

[Gralamin]

I'm posting this as a kind of follow up to a previous thread Mark Hall posted where 4e Won no awards. At the ENnies 4e has done extremely well, in Contrast to the Origins.

Best Miniatures Product
Silver: DU1 Halls of the Giant Kings Dungeon Tiles

Best Adventure
Silver: King of the Trollhaunts Warrens

Best Monster or Adversary
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Ed. Monster Manual

Best Aid or Accessory
Gold: D&D Insider

Best Rules
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Ed. Players Handbook

Best Game
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition

Product of the Year
Gold: Dungeons & Dragons 4th Edition

Kind of an interesting turn around.

[erikun]

Is there full list of nominees? I'm curious as to what 4e beat out.
(Also, just which "Monster or Adversary" won the 4e MM award.)

[Kurald Galain]

Hardly surprising, considering EnWorld is one of the foremost 4E news and discussion sites, other than Gleemax. It's all a matter of audience

[Gralamin]

Is there full list of nominees? I'm curious as to what 4e beat out.
(Also, just which "Monster or Adversary" won the 4e MM award.)

Yes
And it was MM1.

[imperialspectre]

Hardly surprising, considering EnWorld is one of the foremost 4E news and discussion sites, other than Gleemax. It's all a matter of audience

Also, isn't Mearls a huge presence on EnWorld? Considering his role in designing 4e, this news sounds kinda like the (hypothetical) award Games Workshop could win for "Most Benevolent Gaming Company" on some 40k fansite.

[FMArthur]

Is there full list of nominees? I'm curious as to what 4e beat out.
(Also, just which "Monster or Adversary" won the 4e MM award.)

Yes
And it was MM1.

I'm picturing a huge tome with vicious, poisonous quills and barbs pointing out in all directions.

[Myshlaevsky]

I agree with the Best Aid one, probably. I don't know about the others often because I've not fully experienced all the systems on offer - though looking through all the entrants there seems to be quite a few limitations of choice in just the finalists. I was pleased DH got the Best Interior Art and less pleased that it was silver in Best Monster or Adversary.

[Matthew]

Hardly surprising, considering EnWorld is one of the foremost 4E news and discussion sites, other than Gleemax. It's all a matter of audience

Interestingly, Swords & Wizardry (the simulacrum of Original Dungeons & Dragons) took the silver for best free product.

[shadzar]

Hardly surprising, considering EnWorld is one of the foremost 4E news and discussion sites, other than Gleemax. It's all a matter of audience

Or that WotC is still suspected as being a financial backer of ENWorld.

The ENnies have had some problems in the past with some bribed judges or somesuch, and several people leaving/quitting/being fired from working with them for certain reasons.

It isn't like they are real awards anyway, so as you say; a large WotC audience as the panel isn't surprising to vote for WotC products.

I just say to anyone, try before you buy and see if anything given some award (other than safety awards like on cars or things of life and death potential) is actually worth it for you.

[jmbrown]

King of the Trollhaunt Warrens deserved the award. There have been very few Wizards modules I've liked (Sunless Citadel being one and a few great freelance modules that appeared in Dungeon magazine) but Trollhaunt evokes the action of older Gygax-esque modules with epic set pieces.

As far as product of the year, I would have given it to Mouse Guard. As a consumer, I rate my products in completeness. Mouse Guard is a complete system within a single book and the creation rules allow for a large number of scenarios within the universe itself. It's relatively rules light so you can customize it to your liking without conflicting with the current rules setup.

I wish the new Changeling books came out last year. I've got my fingers crossed they'll win best cover art next year. If they don't, the judges are plebes.

[Kizara]

I like how GURPS or 3e DnD isn't in anywhere that I saw (glanced through 4 catagories).

Most of the things that 4e beat out are fairly obscure and/or I've never heard of them, so them winning means little.

[Tiki Snakes]

I like how GURPS or 3e DnD isn't in anywhere that I saw (glanced through 4 catagories).

Most of the things that 4e beat out are fairly obscure and/or I've never heard of them, so them winning means little.

Why would 3e still be in there at all? I mean, Gurps and you might have a point (not that I recal any gurps in the Origin Awards, but still), but it's not like anyones still releasing anything noteworthy for 3rd edition outside of '3.75' and Pathfinder. >_> What book were you expecting to see in there?

[Akisa]

So wait why wasn't star wars saga even mentioned?

[RTGoodman]

So wait why wasn't star wars saga even mentioned?

Er... it was. Several times. "Scum & Villainy," the Clone Wars setting book, a set of Clone Wars minis, and the Order 66 podcast were ALL nominated, and the Clone Wars setting book was even nominated for Product of the Year. Heck, S&V won the Silver for Best Cartography, the CW setting won Silver for Best Supplement, and Order 66 won Silver for Best Podcast.

[Doc Roc]

Because despite SW Saga Edition being a superb hunk of meaty goodness, you can never have any thing nice. Because WotC is run by business-men.

This, I must mention, is a groundless accusation that I stand by.

[Akisa]

Er... it was. Several times. "Scum & Villainy," the Clone Wars setting book, a set of Clone Wars minis, and the Order 66 podcast were ALL nominated, and the Clone Wars setting book was even nominated for Product of the Year. Heck, S&V won the Silver for Best Cartography, the CW setting won Silver for Best Supplement, and Order 66 won Silver for Best Podcast.

I meant for best rules...

[Terraoblivion]

Probably because it is a couple of years old and thus not eligible, Akisa. Or because they don't like it for whatever reason.

And i have to say that you are right jmbrown. Those covers are just magnificent, but of course Changeling: The Lost is most beautiful system ever so it makes sense it would get beautiful covers.

[Jokes]

I meant for best rules...

Because it won last year?

Best Rules

*Star Wars Saga Edition, Wizards of the Coast *Gold Winner*

Best d20/d20 OGL Product

* Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition, Wizards of the Coast *Gold Winner*

Best Game

* Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition, Wizards of the Coast *Gold Winner*

Product of the Year

* Star Wars Roleplaying Game Saga Edition, Wizards of the Coast *Silver Winner*

[Tiki Snakes]

Because it won last year?

That should about cover it, I guess. :)

[shadow_archmagi]

GAMES FROM NOT-THIS-YEAR ARE INELIGIBLE FOR THIS YEAR'S AWARDS?!

Clearly there is some sort of dice-based racism going on.