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Thread: soul melds = magic weapon?
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2009-08-23, 06:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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soul melds = magic weapon?
are meldshapes bound to the totem chakra to form weapons treated as magic weapons in regards to bypassing damage reduction?
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2009-08-23, 06:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Yes.
It says so somewhere in the book, and it's any meldshape, not just those bound to the totem chakra.
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2009-08-23, 06:48 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
They don't have a listed cost, so they work rather well together.
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2009-08-23, 06:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Uh, since most of the combat related stuff in VoP doesn't stack with most soulmelds, then I just answered your question.
It's very similar to using VoP with a druid, or a psion, except worse, because they're less flexible.
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2009-08-23, 06:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Totemists happen to be one of the best choices for a VoP character because they can bypass the weaknesses it imposes (lack of flight, WBL, etc).
@ OP: If you invest Essentia into the meld and the meld provides an Enhancement bonus to attack/damage because of the Essentia, then yes. They are considered equal to a magic weapon or natural weapon under the effects of a Magic Fang spell.
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2009-08-23, 06:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 07:02 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
I use black for sarcasm.
Call me Rose, or The Rose Dragon. Rose Dragon is someone else entirely.
If you need me for something, please PM me about it. I am having difficulty keeping track of all my obligations.
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2009-08-23, 08:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
you wouldn't happen to have a page number would you
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2009-08-23, 09:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 09:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
The part relating to where it says they count as magic in regards to bypassing damage reduction
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2009-08-23, 09:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
That would be under Damage Reduction, in the Monster Manual and DMG. Here's a quote:
Some monsters are vulnerable to magic weapons. Any weapon with at least a +1 magical enhancement bonus on attack and damage rolls overcomes the damage reduction of these monsters. Such creatures’ natural weapons (but not their attacks with weapons) are treated as magic weapons for the purpose of overcoming damage reduction.
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2009-08-23, 09:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
The exact wording might be in the errata (which we can't access because the WotC forums are down), but yea, what Sin said.
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2009-08-23, 09:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-08-23, 09:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Hmm, then maybe it was one of those "the author of the class/book/system apologizes for not doing a half-assed job the first time, and offers this in return" thread.
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2009-08-23, 09:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Nope. It came from my Handbook. I made the claim when I first wrote the Incarnum Handbook, and stood by it ever since.
The only half-assed parts of the MoI would be: Witchborn Binder, Soulborn, Incarnum Blade, Necrocarnate, and the Incandescent Champion. The rest is playable, and the Incarnate and Totemist are good.
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2009-08-23, 11:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
Heh. Not at all what was asked...
You also get stats. Feats. AC. A bunch of stuff. Those (for the most part) still work. Therefore, it works pretty well.
Also, the question was likely whether or not it violated your vow, not whether it was powerful. The later reply seems to support this.
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2009-08-23, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: soul melds = magic weapon?
No, the question was "How does that work with Vow of poverty?"
Since this was purely a mechanical discussion, I went with the answer to the question that made the most sense to me, which was about weapons granted by soulmelds.
If he or anyone else had been talking about the non-weapon aspects of it, then I would have mentioned those to. But that would have been off topic, since it was nowhere near any part of the discussion at the time, until you brought it up.