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    Default Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    i have a barb and i would like to know if WF works in rage?

    Edit: If you have multiple of the same ioun stone, do they stack?
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    Default Re: Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    Yup. From the section on rage in the PHB:

    "He can use any feat he has except Combat Expertise, item creation feats, and metamagic feats."

    I mean, it doesn't make SENSE but you could still use finesse when raging.

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    The most fun thing in the world is to make a Dexterity and Charisma focused Barbarian. Just so everyone knows
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Edit: If you have multiple of the same ioun stone, do they stack?
    In most cases, no. An Ioun stone that gives a bonus usually names the bonus, e.g. "+2 enhancement bonus to Wisdom". Bonuses of the same type do not stack. In the case of the Orange prism, which does not name its bonus, the bonus still does not stack because bonuses from the same source do not stack.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Limecat View Post
    Edit: If you have multiple of the same ioun stone, do they stack?
    Most of them don't -- they either don't gain any benefit from stacking (e.g. Sustain without Food and Water), or they give a typed bonus. Enhancement bonuses or Insight bonuses don't stack with each other, especially when they come from multiple copies of the same Ioun Stone.

    The +1 Caster Level stone? Doesn't stack, even though it's an untyped bonus, just because the same "effect" (like "Orange Ioun Stone effect") doesn't work more than once on the same character. The stone that makes you regenerate? Probably the same argument.

    Spell-storing and spell-absorbing stones sort of stack, in that you can at least use them independently of each other and get a benefit from doing so.
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    I want to especially highlight Ferocity Barbarian; they actually make excellent Weapon Finesse fighters.
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    Default Re: Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    I recommend the Streetfighter variant further down the page, because damage reduction is megalame. That or the totem variants in Complete Champion. Or even the totem variants in Unearthed Arcana (I'm fond of Ape and Bear).

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    Just because you're mad doesn't mean you can't see tendons, arteries and nerve junctions...

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    Default Re: Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    As everyone else has already said, yes it works.

    However, IMO there is little reason for a Barb to go with Weapon Finesse. You're already getting your Str boosted, even if you do have Ferocity (which boosts Str and Dex instead of Str and Con). You're just throwing away a feat and any hope of being good at Trip, Bull Rush, or Grapple. If you're interested in a Dex based build, play a Skill Monkey.

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    C'mon man, haven't you played a rogue/Barbarian? No?

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    Default Re: Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    Consider taking Frantic Rage from Faiths of Eberron.
    The feat lets you decide whether your rage increases STR or DEX, so with Ferocity, that's a +8!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olo Demonsbane View Post
    The most fun thing in the world is to make a Dexterity and Charisma focused Barbarian. Just so everyone knows
    I really like this idea. I've been looking for an excuse to play a halfling barb for a while now. Now it's even more appealing.

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    Default Re: Does Wep. Finesse Work in rage?

    The Ferocity variant Barbarian is actually pretty sweet. Especially if you want to make an undead barbarian, and have no CON score... it takes some DM diplomacy, but it's the best Zombarian option out there.

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    Since the OP's question has been answered, let's go offtopic.

    I seem to recall a build awhile back that centered around amassing huge numbers of ioun stones and using them as a form of artillery, blasting at the enemy en masse. I can't remember how it worked, though. Magic Missile, I think, was involved.
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