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    Default [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.



    Maybe one or two people may remember the Kercpa from 2nd. Luckily for me, the guy who updated a lot of the older edition material to 3.x in his Tomes of Horror series of books, who is connected somehow to Enworld (I have no clue why it's all listed on his site) updated them to 3.5:
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    Well, it turns out that one of my new players has always wanted to play a squirrel, so I wish to make that happen for him.

    The thing is it's a level 1 party, so I need to figure out a racial progression for him, but sucked heavily the last time I tried to do one.



    p.s. He is apparently going to be a barbarian, hence the main melee member of the adventuring group...
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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    A tiny barbarian will have alot of problems, first being 0-range, 2nd being, well, easy to grapple and thus negate all that greataxe stuff.

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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozgun92 View Post
    A tiny barbarian will have alot of problems, first being 0-range, 2nd being, well, easy to grapple and thus negate all that greataxe stuff.
    So what are you suggesting?


    p.s.By the way, this is a low-magic cosmology, so I doubt he'd enter a caster class. At most perhaps an adapt is occasionally allowed.
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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by ozgun92 View Post
    A tiny barbarian will have alot of problems, first being 0-range, 2nd being, well, easy to grapple and thus negate all that greataxe stuff.
    And third, using tiny-sized weapons, which will make the variable damage look like a pittance compared to a medium-sized weapon user...

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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    I don't think you can make the race into a very useful monster class, as by adding a class level, you can drop the racial hit die and eventually buy off the LA. It's just not a suitable race to start as a 1st level character as, unfortunately.
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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    If the player is going to be a barbarian/melee dude as primary party role, you could probably drop the LA to +1. Itty-bitty size, strength penalty, etc. do not a great damage monster make.

    I mean, if he decided he'd rather be a rogue or something, add an LA or two, but if he wants to melee and damage soak? Man, NOT a powerful race.
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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dracomorph View Post
    If the player is going to be a barbarian/melee dude as primary party role, you could probably drop the LA to +1. Itty-bitty size, strength penalty, etc. do not a great damage monster make.

    I mean, if he decided he'd rather be a rogue or something, add an LA or two, but if he wants to melee and damage soak? Man, NOT a powerful race.
    Well, I myself have had things I have wanted to play for years, but rarely get a DM willing to let me play my "unusual" requests. He plain out said "I might never get another chance to play a squirrel again like I've wanted, so I am going to take it!".

    I like the idea of dropping the LA to +1 if he chooses to stay within bmelee classes. Anyone agree? Or would it still be "broken"? I imagine the roleplaying would be amazing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pika... View Post
    Well, I myself have had things I have wanted to play for years, but rarely get a DM willing to let me play my "unusual" requests. He plain out said "I might never get another chance to play a squirrel again like I've wanted, so I am going to take it!".

    I like the idea of dropping the LA to +1 if he chooses to stay within bmelee classes. Anyone agree? Or would it still be "broken"? I imagine the roleplaying would be amazing.
    It's not so much broken as not very viable for a low level character to go after. Also, the race is built to be an archer, if all it's racial abilities are any indication, so going Barbarian just doesn't seem the right path to go, as the rage bonuses cancel out the racial Strength penalties (and I guess exacerbate the racial con bonus. Yeesh, buff squirrel is buff @_@).

    Even if you made a monstrous class progression, he would be sitting on one hit die till he hit 5th, which sounds to me like a quick way to die. It's not that I want to quash his character idea, I just don't see a way of going that way as a first level character.

    ...well, unless he wants to just take the LA +3, be an ECL 4 character with 1st level loot and just take reduced XP (as it shouldn't be a challenge for him like the other PCs, so he naturally gets less XP than they do). He'll just have to realize that he's going to be fragile till the rest of the party catches up, he's gonna be dependent on his racial bonuses till that time to be even a modicum of a threat in combat and that he should probably install a saddle on the party meat shield to act as a mobile ranged platform.
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    Default Re: [3.5] Need help. Need a Kercpa Racial Progression.

    Is he married to the idea of being a Kercpa or a squirrel? There's this splat book called Freeform Anthropomorphica that would let them create a small, medium or (terror) a Large squirrel if he just wants to be a squirrel.
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