The Test of Spite [3.51]

[PhoenixRivers]

Believe it or not, there aren't feats that let you gain cover like that in sandstorm, there are only feats that give a bonus to hide in sandy areas.

The feat in question explicitly states that you're burying yourself in sand, and explicitly states that it does not grant cover or concealment.

It'd be kinda silly to think that someone without the feat would get cover or concealment from the same exact action, no?

[Human Paragon 3]

it's also strange that being covered in sand does not grant cover or concealment.

[Doc Roc]

The issue is actually: What is cover for a fine creature? I suggest you bring The Smallest Tower Shield. :))

[PhoenixRivers]

Now, what's REALLY strange, is that you can hide behind a tower shield, and, since it's an attended object, it hides with you.

[Mushroom Ninja]

Anyone want an exhibition against my Warmarked?

[Claudius Maximus]

Wat are the parameters for speaking IC? How much can we say as a free action? Can we speak out of turn? If so, how much?

[Doc Roc]

It's classically a word for free action, and you can speak out of turn.

[sofawall]

One word per free action?

This is going to be sending all over again.

[Doc Roc]

Link to the problem or more info please?

[Claudius Maximus]

About the talking as a free action/out of turn thing? We did it here (posts 40 and 41). I took what you said to mean that we can say one word at any time as a free action. Since we have 30 free actions a round, I thought that meant there would be a 30 word limit.

[Doc Roc]

That is correct.

[PhoenixRivers]

That is correct.

Less, if you plan on using free actions for other things.

[Doc Roc]

Less, if you plan on using free actions for other things.

Why would I do anything other than talk? :)

[Cieyrin]

Why would I do anything other than talk? :)

Well, so much for witty banter in combat anymore for archers.

[Mushroom Ninja]

Well, so much for witty banter in combat anymore for archers.

Bah, who needs it? Archer banter consists of MOAR ARROWS!

[Doc Roc]

Bah, who needs it? Archer banter consists of MOAR ARROWS!

Interestingly, the cap on free actions places a max on the number of arrows a character can fire in a round. It may, as a result, need to be increased slightly.

[Mushroom Ninja]

Interestingly, the cap on free actions places a max on the number of arrows a character can fire in a round. It may, as a result, need to be increased slightly.

Is there a build that needs to fire more than 30 arrows a round (not including splitting arrows)?

[Doc Roc]

A few, yeah.

[Claudius Maximus]

I actually have some free time this weekend, so I'm going to get back to checking sheets. I'm going to favor older sheets and characters that can qualify for the dungeons over exhibition-only characters. If anyone is still expecting word back from me, please contact me and I'll tell you what's up with your sheet. Also, if anyone is withdrawing any characters, tell me ASAP.

[9mm]

Munster the Cuddley is now done.

[IthilanorStPete]

My first character's submitted. Cleric, I'd guess tier 3 or 4.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

My first character's submitted. Cleric, I'd guess tier 3 or 4.

Wow... that's impressive. Making a Cleric Tier 4 is just as difficult as making a CW Samurai Tier 3... it's hard to sub-optimize a cleric that far down unless you start gimping his spell list deliberately.

I mean, right out of the box, it's hard to take down a Cleric due to all the healing he can drop on himself, he can usually engineer situations in which he can have several pre-buff rounds to make himself a better fighter than most of the Core 'tank' classes, and has a decent "Save or Screwed" spell selection which includes some Save or Die effects.

That's without DMM Shenanigans, without Arrow Demon tricks, without Cracksticks, and without certain other methods of cheese.

[IthilanorStPete]

Well, it's just a rough guess; my optimization-fu isn't strong enough to get more than a rough feel for how powerful it is. And I'm going by the tier system for just here in the ToS, the one Tide laid out here. Actually looking at that post, I'd say I'm pretty definitely in tier 3.

[sofawall]

Reading that post, I managed to come up with an example for a Tier 0.5.

The Borg Cube.

[Adumbration]

Reading that post, I managed to come up with an example for a Tier 0.5.

The Borg Cube.

Care to specify? My google-fu fails due to the borg part: too many hits.

[ShneekeyTheLost]

Care to specify? My google-fu fails due to the borg part: too many hits.

I believe it exploits Hive Mind in ways that makes Leadership green with envy...

[sofawall]

Not even close.

I made a build using Stronghold Builder's Guide, and unless you were ready for it, chances were you couldn't even touch me.

[PhoenixRivers]

Not even close.

I made a build using Stronghold Builder's Guide, and unless you were ready for it, chances were you couldn't even touch me.

Exploit of cover rules?

[9mm]

Exploit of cover rules?

*has seen the build*

Oh how I wish it were that simple....

[PhoenixRivers]

*has seen the build*

Oh how I wish it were that simple....

Has not seen the build.