[3.5] How is the Canger Mage broken?

[Myou]

Hmm?

[Gnorman]

Festering Anger.

[Jalor]

It's easy to fix, though. Just Rule 0 Festering Anger out of the universe.

[sofawall]

To expand, Festering Anger means you get infinite Str, with no drawbacks.

[Myou]

To expand, Festering Anger means you get infinite Str, with no drawbacks.

I've not heard of it. It's a disease?

[Douglas]

Also, Vile Rigidity. Both it and Festering Anger are diseases in the same book as the Cancer Mage.

[Keld Denar]

Yea, disease that increases your Str, while dropping a couple of your other mental stats. Since you don't lose the mental stats, you just get the bonus Str.

Real fun is if you are an Aeshkrau Illumian (Races of Destiny), your bonus spells are based on your Str score, which essentially gives you infinite spells per day.

[Myou]

Yea, disease that increases your Str, while dropping a couple of your other mental stats. Since you don't lose the mental stats, you just get the bonus Str.

Real fun is if you are an Aeshkrau Illumian (Races of Destiny), your bonus spells are based on your Str score, which essentially gives you infinite spells per day.

Now that's just silly. Str to fuel casting? And they don't even try to justify it in the book either.

[Kris Strife]

Now that's just silly. Str to fuel casting? And they don't even try to justify it in the book either.

Do I need to link to Superboy punching reality so hard an old Lois Lane dies?

[Shinizak]

Canger mage? What book is that from?

[Gnorman]

Do I need to link to Superboy punching reality so hard an old Lois Lane dies?

Yes. Yes, you do.

[Myou]

Do I need to link to Superboy punching reality so hard an old Lois Lane dies?

Sure, why not. Not that it's any justification, but that should be funny.

Canger mage? What book is that from?

Book of Vile Darkness.

[Keld Denar]

Its only spells/day. DCs are still based on whatever the base casting stat is. So, while you'd get infinite spell slots, your action economy would be stunted unless you had an arbitrarily lengthy amount of time.

Don't knock Aeshkrau! Seriously, outside of Cancer Mage shananigens, its really pretty balanced. Great for Illumian gishes, which makes sense, considering that Illumian's fluff is that they love multiclassing as a racial trait anyway, and most gishes are pretty mutted out in terms of class levels.

As far as fluff, its not hard to imaging. Its just drawing a line between physical reserves of power and magical reserves of power. The zen of working out. Its not like you are flexing someone to death...

[Myou]

Its only spells/day. DCs are still based on whatever the base casting stat is. So, while you'd get infinite spell slots, your action economy would be stunted unless you had an arbitrarily lengthy amount of time.

Don't knock Aeshkrau! Seriously, outside of Cancer Mage shananigens, its really pretty balanced. Great for Illumian gishes, which makes sense, considering that Illumian's fluff is that they love multiclassing as a racial trait anyway, and most gishes are pretty mutted out in terms of class levels.

As far as fluff, its not hard to imaging. Its just drawing a line between physical reserves of power and magical reserves of power. The zen of working out. Its not like you are flexing someone to death...

Yes, but it just seems silly.

[Keld Denar]

And waggling your fingers so hard a fireball pops out isn't?

Silly is a relative term...

[ShneekeyTheLost]

As far as fluff, its not hard to imaging. Its just drawing a line between physical reserves of power and magical reserves of power. The zen of working out. Its not like you are flexing someone to death...

Lt. Armstrong from FMA?

[Kobold-Bard]

Its not like you are flexing someone to death...

Awwwww...

I ever realised Cancer Mage was so broken. Cool.

[Doc Roc]

Banned in ToS for a good darn reason.

[Myou]

Banned in ToS for a good darn reason.

What do you think made me ask?

[Shinizak]

Book of Vile Darkness.

LIES AND SLANDER! I see the CANCER mage (which I now presume you're talking about) and have no reason to call it broken.

[Claudius Maximus]

Have you read the rest of the thread?

If this isn't broken, I don't know what is.

[Myou]

LIES AND SLANDER! I see the CANCER mage (which I now presume you're talking about) and have no reason to call it broken.

I didn't even notice the typo until you said that.

[Doc Roc]

Have you read the rest of the thread?

If this isn't broken, I don't know what is.

Well, it only applies to casters, and it doesn't progress casting for the one level you need to take, so if it was really broken, it'd give you a familiar or let you specialize, right?

[Jalor]

LIES AND SLANDER! I see the CANCER mage (which I now presume you're talking about) and have no reason to call it broken.

It suffers no ill effects from diseases, but gets the beneficial ones. Festering Anger gives +2 Str/day, Vile Rigidity gives +1 natural armor a day. The worst part is that you don't even need to do anything besides hate someone passionately to contract Festering Anger.

Ranger 1/Survivalist Variant Fighter 2/Cancer Mage X can have infinite Str and NA at 4th level. And it's not even a real mage.

I still love the class, as long as it's houseruled to suffer no effects from diseases, harmful or beneficial.

[Signmaker]

The worst part is that you don't even need to do anything besides hate someone passionately to contract Festering Anger.

DAMN YOU FRIEZAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

[Douglas]

DAMN YOU FRIEZAAAAAAAAAA!!!!

Wait, Vegeta's a Cancer Mage? This explains so much.

I guess he just didn't wait long enough for the strength bonus to pile up before the big confrontation.

Still doesn't explain Goku, though, that kind of anger is just foreign to him.

[Keld Denar]

so if it was really broken, it'd give you a familiar or let you specialize, right?

I see what you did there....

If it was REALLY broken, it would let you wield a uranium greatsword, even if you're an elven cancer mage.

[sofawall]

Hmm... You guys took all the obvious memes...

We put cancer in yo' mage so you can... Naw, I don't see it.

[Signmaker]

Hmm... You guys took all the obvious memes...

We put cancer in yo' mage so you can... Naw, I don't see it.

Yo dawg, I heard you like atomic supermen, so I put some cancer in yo' caster so you can rage while you mage.

[Kelpstrand]

Yo dawg. I heard you like diseases, so we put a Disease in your Disease, so you can Smash while you Cast.