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2009-09-14, 02:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 02:55 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Reach Spell, hells yeah! +2 metamagic, makes something a ray of range close, IIRC.
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2009-09-14, 02:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
The Master Specialist class, if you are an Abjurer, lets you do such with Abjuration spells 2 or 3 times/day. I believe it's the level 10 ability.
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2009-09-14, 02:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Reach Spell only works on a spell if that spell was already Touch range.
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2009-09-14, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
All that I say applies only to myself. You author your own actions and choices. I cannot and will not be responsible for you, nor are you for me, regardless of situation or circumstance.
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2009-09-14, 02:59 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
There was some PrC or another which made Personal spells Touch. It was abused in the War Weaver guide to cast Personal spells through the Weave and affect the entire party
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2009-09-14, 03:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 03:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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Partner it with Magic of the Land, and you get hilarity.
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2009-09-14, 03:30 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Specifically the Spellguard ability they gain as a capstone, which allows any spell that boots AC, saves or gives extra HP/healing to be made Touch instead of Personal.
Based on a previous investigation I think that this is the only such ability. I've never seen any other method that works.Last edited by Myou; 2009-09-14 at 03:31 PM.
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2009-09-14, 03:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Actually, it's not a capstone. Spellguard is a 5 level class and they get that ability at level 4.
It is limited to "defensive" spells, with an explicit definition provided, but the definition does cover quite a number of spells you might want to do this with, and Magic of the Land can debatably make it work with any spell.
If you have access to Shapechange for the creature you want to cast the buff on (Shapechange qualifies as defensive for Spellguard with no shenanigans regardless of the form you choose, thanks to it inheriting the "heal as if resting" clause from Polymorph, btw), you can have the recipient Shapechange into your choice of any of the symbionts from the Fiend Folio. These creatures all can attach to a host and automatically copy any spell the host casts on himself regardless of targeting restrictions.
This is a significant part of Team Solar's buffing strategy (see my sig).
There are a few magic items that can help as well, though they are generally expensive and have drawbacks. Rings of Spell Storing are in core and allow you to get around Personal range restrictions by counting whoever's using the ring as the caster, but they are expensive and force caster level down to the minimum. I vaguely remember something, I think a pair of bracers, in either the Magic Item Compendium or DMG2 that lets you share a personal range spell with the person wearing the other bracer, but cuts the duration in half.Last edited by Douglas; 2009-09-14 at 03:45 PM.
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2009-09-14, 03:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
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2009-09-14, 03:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-09-14, 03:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Magic of the Land. Whenever you are in a natural setting, your buffs give allies temp HP. That makes any spell you can cast qualify for Spellguard. Then, there is a spell on the www.wizards.com website that creates a little acorn for days/level. As long as you have that arcorn on your person, you are treated as being in a natural setting. Combine together, and you can cast any buff spell on any person. Tensor's Transformation on your party's fighter? lulz.
The other method to cast spells on people is Occular Spell, from Lords of Madness. Its a +2 MM that stores spells in your eyes. At some later point, you can release those spells as a full round action that creates 2 rays with a 60' range.
Pew pew, glowy lazer buffs from your EYEZ!!!!
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2009-09-14, 04:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
custom research a touch version of the spell... thus the DM gets to approve it on a spell by spell basis. If the spell is too abusable, it just is not gonna work or significantly increases its level.
Frankly I would love to see more "metamagic spells"... as in,
You found a scroll of stilled fireball, it is a fireball VARIANT with the still spell applied to it. You do not need to have the still spell feat to cast it, it can be written in the same spellbook as your regular fireball spell, it is distinctly a DIFFERENT spell than fireball.. maybe it also counts as a level 4 spell. It costs more.
Maybe people with a metamagic feat can undo it, for example, still spell allows you to ADD a somatic component to a spell that has none, and take it one level lower?
frankly a ton of the spells and items are totally superflous, just a way to make more books out of the same content, most RPGs give you a base spell to modify as you wish... wizards releases book after book containing tons of varients of the same spells, large pictures, and pointless "fluff".
Id replace a lot of spells with:
Ball of [Energy], V,S, M
You research/learn on level up a spell that causes an energy blast similar to a fireball, doing 1d6/CL damage. You can take multiple spells based off of this, each is a different spell. Each spell may have any metamegic type feat applied to it to change its qualities at a price of making it a higher level spell.
Ray of [ability score of your choice damage]
Ray of [direct damage]
etc...
This can also be really neat as ANYONE AND ANYTHING can be a wizard... and the spells you loot might not be the complete standard and exactly what you need.. for example if you killed the awakened ape wizard and got his spellbook, you would find that all his spells are one level higher than they should be, and don't require a verbal component (they have dexterous hands and can SCREECH fine, but they cannot talk like a human can)
And we can finally have someone blast with an ice ball or a lightening ball without looking at custom content.Last edited by taltamir; 2009-09-14 at 04:06 PM.
I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-09-14, 04:05 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 04:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
What about that 9th level Wu-Jen spell...Transcend Mortality or some such? Doesn't that spell give you a boost to saves (amongst many things) and normall yit's only Personal Range. If so...
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2009-09-14, 04:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 05:07 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 05:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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"Quick, stab yourself with this pen, I'm gonna turn you into a dragon!"
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2009-09-14, 05:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 05:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by ShneekeyTheLost; 2009-09-14 at 05:23 PM.
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2009-09-14, 05:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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there are actual creatures called "war troll" and "force dragon"?
I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-09-14, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yes. The Force dragon's even in the srd.
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2009-09-14, 05:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-14, 06:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
Well, if you are delivering it as a touch, you just punch the fighter. Assuming you can hit his full AC, you'll do your 1d3+str non-lethal damage...minimum 1.
Bingo
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2009-09-14, 07:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-09-14, 07:56 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: How to change a personal spell to a touch or range spell
That's not the point. Why pray to PELOR? He doesn't give a crap wheter you live or not. He's the same god that grants Jozan castings of Symbol of Pain. In case ya didn't know, the spell he's granting is EEEEEVILLLL.