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2009-09-19, 05:54 PM (ISO 8601)
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Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
I'm hoping to start an arena using the Gears of War set up I've had for that campaign.
Anyway, does the map appear discernible at all? Is it good enough for pvp pbp?
Constructive criticism appreciated.
Also: It's not quite done yet. Things like weapons laying on the ground depends entirely on what the GM tells the players in accordance to their line of sight (and passive search/spot checks, etc.), so players can't just walk to one area of the map and know where everything is (except in the case of special red spaces).Last edited by imp_fireball; 2009-09-19 at 06:00 PM.
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2009-09-19, 06:10 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
So what is red? Seems good though.
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2009-09-19, 06:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
Basically a space containing anything the GM wants it to be. Say, a switch or a turret - the player finds out once it falls in their line of sight. Also I forgot to mention on the legend that red spaces are of identical level to adjacent spaces; and if that gets confusing, it's usually level to the most elevated adjacent space (whew).
Last edited by imp_fireball; 2009-09-19 at 06:16 PM.
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2009-09-19, 06:16 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
In general, I suggest using symmetrical maps for arenas. You can certainly have fair assymmetrical maps, but it's tougher, and more prone to player complaining.
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2009-09-19, 06:24 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
No.
First, your legend is a mess. If you're going to use different colours for different elevations, it is essential that they're listed in order, and they should also be in an obvious colour order, either by hue or lightness.
Second, you should take advantage of the fact that you can use symbols. Choose an icon to represent stairs, one to represent walls (or just use the box drawing characters from the character map) and one to represent the special things.
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2009-09-19, 06:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
Second, you should take advantage of the fact that you can use symbols. Choose an icon to represent stairs, one to represent walls (or just use the box drawing characters from the character map) and one to represent the special things.
In general, I suggest using symmetrical maps for arenas. You can certainly have fair assymmetrical maps, but it's tougher, and more prone to player complaining.
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2009-09-19, 06:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-19, 06:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
Go to the character map
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2009-09-19, 06:44 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-19, 07:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
Thanks.
But I don't think it makes much of a difference over colors. It might help for red spaces though (if I could keep the color and then just overlap a symbol to prevent confusion).
EDIT: Pasting characters into textboxes is horribly inconvenient since I can't fit them into the spaces. Not to mention they don't accept background colors.Last edited by imp_fireball; 2009-09-19 at 07:26 PM.
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2009-09-20, 12:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
Again, this is incorrect. Select the text option and look at the context-specific part of the toolbox. See how there are two yellow boxes, one of which is overlapped by a white box? Click on the other one, and the white background of the text box will be replaced with whatever image is already there.
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2009-09-20, 12:34 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
I think this is your real problem. MS Paint is capable of a lot more than what you're currently doing, but it is still seriously limited. Mainly, it's missing some important tools that make doing this sort of thing a lot simpler, such as being easily editable.
Personally, I'd use Photoshop or even a simple spreadsheet program over Paint, but there has to be some free software you could find that has decent functionality. It just takes a little research.
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2009-09-20, 12:48 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-20, 12:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-09-20, 01:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
You REALLY need bigger squares than that. I can't imagine keeping track of tactical movement when the squares are that small.
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2009-09-20, 01:46 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
And you should consider learning the program you're using.
You can fit any symbol wherever you want, just change font size and/or adjust by drag-sizing.
I do most my coloring on excel, screenshot-paste to mspaint, and add symbols/details to my likings. It has been working quite good so far.
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2009-09-20, 03:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Starting an Arena - Is this Map ok?
I know nothing of 'yellow boxes'. MS Paint seems pretty straight forward and content-less as far as I can tell. Maybe providing pictures would help?