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    Default Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    I've only found 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells in the SRD and the Spell Compendium. Are there any other books that have 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    There's a few in the PHBII and in some Forgotten Realms books.

    This is helpful when trying to find spells. Just look up all 0 level spells. It's not entirely complete, though.
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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    This page is better, & it says that there are no 0th-level spells outside of the PHB & the Spell Compendium.

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Well, the WotC page soes say it only has spells from the PHB and Spell Compendium.

    Thanks.

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    I was wrong about the PHBII, but I don't understand how that link is better if it has less spells than the one I gave. It's limited to PHB and SPC.
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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    There's a bunch in the various Dragon Magazines. You know, 2 here, 3 there. It adds up.

    And you could always get into teh 3rd party books

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    I know I've found cantrips in other places. It's frigging rare though, there's not that many of them.

    Kinda a shame, IMO.

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tyndmyr View Post
    I know I've found cantrips in other places. It's frigging rare though, there's not that many of them.

    Kinda a shame, IMO.
    I bet everyone just likes Cantrips because of the clause that the Wizards know all of 0th level Cantrips, heh.
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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta Kai View Post
    This page is better, & it says that there are no 0th-level spells outside of the PHB & the Spell Compendium.
    Because it only lists the PHB and the Spell Compendium.
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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    PHB 1 has some.

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Willis888 View Post
    PHB 1 has some.
    ...

    That's essentially what the SRD is.
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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Book of Vile Darkness has at least 4 more cantrips. Not very useful ones, but there.

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    Default Re: Are there more 0th level Sorcerer/Wizard spells?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lkctgo View Post
    I bet everyone just likes Cantrips because of the clause that the Wizards know all of 0th level Cantrips, heh.
    Pretty much. That and the fact that the spell slots aren't terribly useful, so trying to maximize the utility there is just reasonable.

    Also, they're remarkably cheap for item creation purposes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Siosilvar View Post
    ...

    That's essentially what the SRD is.
    My mistake. I checked and its actually the next book over on the shelf - "Unearthed Arcana" by Gary Gygax c1985.

    It contains gems such as (but not limited to): twitch, yawn, blink, (un)tie, dampen(dry), salt, groan, moan, rattle, and my personal favorite:

    "Gather (Alteration)
    AoE: 1 sq. yrd.
    Casting Time: 1/2 segment
    This cantrip enables the caster to neatly gather numerous small objects into a stack or pile . . . "

    And it can selectively sort by material (ie, "I 'gather' all the 10,000gp diamonds from the heaping pile of sundry treasures into a neat pile at my feet.")

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adumbration View Post
    Book of Vile Darkness has at least 4 more cantrips. Not very useful ones, but there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeta Kai View Post
    This page is better, & it says that there are no 0th-level spells outside of the PHB & the Spell Compendium.
    That page says there are no spells, period, outside of SpC and PHB.

    So how is it better? I think you are wrong, and it is, in fact, worse.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Willis888 View Post
    My mistake. I checked and its actually the next book over on the shelf - "Unearthed Arcana" by Gary Gygax c1985.

    It contains gems such as (but not limited to): twitch, yawn, blink, (un)tie, dampen(dry), salt, groan, moan, rattle, and my personal favorite:

    "Gather (Alteration)
    AoE: 1 sq. yrd.
    Casting Time: 1/2 segment
    This cantrip enables the caster to neatly gather numerous small objects into a stack or pile . . . "

    And it can selectively sort by material (ie, "I 'gather' all the 10,000gp diamonds from the heaping pile of sundry treasures into a neat pile at my feet.")
    Hah. Those were fun.

    But Spell Compendium was mentioned in the OP, so you're quite obviously using the wrong edition.
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