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2009-10-02, 10:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2006
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Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Does this work?
Wizard 9/Swiftblade 10 can cast 8th level spells. With Improved Sigil: Krau, Alacritous Cogitation + Versatile Spellcaster + Heighten Spell, or Earth Sense + Earth Spell + Heighten Spell, this can be bumped up to a 9th level spell.
If I then take a level of Dragon Disciple (or some other PrC that grants a spell slot and/or bonus spell), can I get a 9th level slot that way?Handbooks:
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Archon of Nine, Jellobomber, King of Pong, Lightning Thief
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2009-10-02, 11:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Feb 2009
Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
I'm not sure of the reasoning but I know it doesn't work. The reason (I think) is that to have a spell slot you need to gain it with a permanent feature (a class feature for exemple).
You can consider a temporary spell slot as a normal spell slot for that kind of thing.
...Err... Someone should be able to explain it a (little ) bit better than me, but the final answer will still be no. Of that I am sure.
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2009-10-02, 11:49 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Mar 2008
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- NYC
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
I recall someone doing 9th level spells with Swiftblade, but it involved a lot more cheese. However, Heighten Spell shenanigans only work for Sorcerers and other spontaneous casters, I believe. It can be done, but in a different way.
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2009-10-02, 11:50 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2009
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- Hillsboro, OR
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Dragon Disciple gives a bonus spell slot as if through a high ability score.
In addition to having a high ability score, a spellcaster must be of high enough class level to be able to cast spells of a given spell level.
At least, that's how I'm understanding it.The NPC.
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2009-10-02, 11:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2009
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- Australia
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
If it worked you wouldn't need Dragon Disciple - you could just use your bonus spells from having a high ability score.
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2009-10-02, 11:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2008
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- Midwest, not Middle East
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
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2009-10-03, 12:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Apr 2009
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- Elemental Plane of Paper
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Or, you know, just don't take the last level of Swiftblade. It's nice to have free action Time Stops, but it's even better to be able to Shapechange/Disjunction/Gate/etc./etc. Plus, you'll be able to Time Stop anyway, and better, using Greater Metamagic Rod of Maximize.
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2009-10-03, 12:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Aug 2009
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- Cameron, MO
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Ask Doc Rock to show you his sisters, Elly and Jaclyn ;) And yes, requires some cheese. However, if you like cheese, go Factotem 8/Beholder Mage 1/Swiftblade 9/Abjurant Champion 2, and revel in utter action economy abuse.
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2009-10-03, 10:11 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Nov 2008
Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Just be a swiftblade/Beholder mage. Duh.
I saw a suggestion for a build that was a swiftblade/beholder mage polymorphed into a choker with Assume Supernatural ability for 3 standard actions a round.
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2009-10-03, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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- May 2004
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- Enterprise, Alabama
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
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2009-10-03, 11:07 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Jan 2009
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- Iceland
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Uh, I think the best way to insure that you get 9th level spells and 10 levels of Swiftblade is to get into the class early. If you can get yourself in at level 4 or 5 and then take a fast-progressing class later, you should be set.
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Oh, and guys, your builds need more Incantatrix.Last edited by Ernir; 2009-10-03 at 11:08 AM.
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2009-10-03, 11:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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- Oct 2008
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Re: Swiftblade with 9th level spells?
Here.
There are five or six other ways. These are the ones I liked. Your route may work, but it would be entirely dependent on your GM's mood regarding what amounts to a direct exploit. The same goes for my builds above, though, so...Last edited by Doc Roc; 2009-10-03 at 11:20 AM.
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