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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    Map: Any preference?

    Buff Rounds: Can we do All Day + 5? We're both full casters, so it shouldnt favor one side over the other much...

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    Can we have all-day + EDIT:8, missed a buff I want instead? And any map as long as it's simple is also fine by me.
    EDIT: Fixed to 6.
    Buffs:
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    All-Day:
    - mage armor
    - false life: : Roll in post 2 down. (Was 16)
    Buff Rounds:

    1) Expeditious Retreat
    2) Spectral Hand: (1d4)[2] damage to self
    3) Spell Turning... I have to roll the numbers openly, since we don't really have a DM. Not like it really matters. (1d4+6)[8] levels turned.
    4) Greater mirror image: Roll in post down (was a 5) images.
    5) Invisibility
    6) Fly


    OO:
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    No need for this anymore
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    Assuming everything's okay, my initiative is (1d20+15)[28].

    EDIT:
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    HP: 60 (+14)/60
    Spells left:
    0th Light, Arcane Mark, Detect Magic, Read Magic
    1st Obscuring Mist, Ray of Enfeeblement, Ray of Enfeeblement, Shield
    2nd Touch of Idiocy, Touch of Idiocy, Glitterdust
    3rd Suggestion, Slow, Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement, Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement
    4th Bestow Curse, Celerity, Celerity, Enervation, Enervation
    5th- Feeblemind, Feeblemind, Wall of Force, Baleful polymorph
    6th Dispel magic (greater), Disintegrate, quickened touch of idiocy
    7th Finger of death

    Last edited by Thelas; 2009-10-04 at 08:11 PM.
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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    One of my rolls in spoilers didn't work, rerolling it here.
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    Greater mirror image reroll: (1d4+4)[5]
    Thelas

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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    And I forgot another, rolling it here.
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    False life temp hp: (1d10+10)[16]
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    8 is excessive...most people wont let you have 4.

    I can do 6 +AD at the maximum.

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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    6 will work, I'll edit to reflect that.
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Buffs:
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    All Day: Bead of Karma: DMM Persist Ironguard, Greater Anticipate Teleporation, Contingency [Ray Deflection; When I would be hit by a ray], Superior Resistance, DMM Persist Righteous Might, Greater Luminous Armor ((1d3)[3] Str damage, cured by 2 lesser restorations (1d3)[3] and (1d3)[1], Greater Mighty Wallop on Weapon, Greater Magic Weapon on Weapon and Armor Spikes, DMM Persist Wraithstrike
    Standard1: Shield of Faith
    Swift1: Conviction
    Standard2: Shield
    Swift2: Shield of Warding
    Standard3: Freedom of Movement
    Swift3: Duelward
    Standard4: Sheltered Vitality
    Swift4: Haste
    Standard5: Divine Power
    Swift5: Greater Mirror Image (1d4+4)[8] +1 for rounds, max 8
    Standard6: Ferocity of Sanguine Rage
    Swift6: Delay Death


    Initiative (1d20)[20]

    Sorry for the delay, so many buffs...

    As for the map...would you be fine with the standard collums, or would you like something more elaborate?
    Last edited by Olo Demonsbane; 2009-10-04 at 11:43 PM.

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    Columns map is fine, and I'll take...
    (1d2)[1]
    1 = top
    2 = bottom
    Thelas

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    RedWizardGuy

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    Ok then, I'll start in F8.

    You go first.

    Also, you are scanned by Detect Evil. Please tell me...are you evil?

    EDIT: I have blindsight covering the entire arena, so please tell me your starting location and visual description as well.
    Last edited by Olo Demonsbane; 2009-10-05 at 02:16 PM.

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    Okay, starting location is E3. My spectral hand will start in E6.
    You see a human wizard of about thirty years of age, seeming to come right out of one of the universities of magic.
    Unfortunately, you also see 7 other copies of him.
    He has a ring on each hand and carries a single shuriken in his hand and two (!) backpacks on his back. [Not sure how he does that, really.]
    He is also wearing a cloak and a belt.
    First turn actions:
    Spellcraft DC 17/21 to identify (I'm not sure if metamagic adds to the DC as if the spell was of higher level).
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    It's a quickened touch of idiocy.
    . The spectral hand begins to glow with a dark light before moving to F7 and touching you. Touch attack (I assume my BAB and STR apply normally to this.): (1d20+7)[15] No save, but SR applies.
    No SR and attack hits:
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    Take (1d6)[6] INT, WIS, and CHA penalty.
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    Next, I'll cast a Spellcraft DC 21
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    Greater Dispel Magic
    . Dispelling effect: list all buffs (or just how many, I guess) that I can dispel.
    OO:
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    Belt of battle for a standard, using my move.
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    Then I'll whack you with a Spellcraft DC 19
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    Enervation
    . Ranged touch attack (ray) (1d20+8)[17].
    No save, but SR allowed.
    No SR and attack hits:
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    Take (1d4)[4] negative levels.

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    Lastly, I'll five-foot-step to D2. End turn.
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    Also, since you're buying equipment during the first turn (though before I move), I'll remember to (OO)
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    put a greater dispel magic (several days before) into my ring of greater counterspells.
    . My spellcraft is +24, so if it's below DC 25, don't bother spoilering it.

    Status et al (OO)
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    HP: 60 (+14)/60
    Spells left:
    0th Light, Arcane Mark, Detect Magic, Read Magic
    1st Obscuring Mist, Ray of Enfeeblement, Ray of Enfeeblement, Shield
    2nd Touch of Idiocy, Touch of Idiocy, Glitterdust
    3rd Suggestion, Slow, Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement, Empowered Ray of Enfeeblement
    4th Bestow Curse, Celerity, Celerity, Enervation
    5th- Feeblemind, Feeblemind, Wall of Force, Baleful polymorph
    6th Disintegrate
    7th Finger of death
    Belt of battle - 1/3 charges remaining.

    EDIT 2: Also forgot my altitude: I'm flying at 40 ft unless I say otherwise.
    EDIT 3: Forgot to say I'm not evil. So here's your formal declaration of not-evilness.
    Last edited by Thelas; 2009-10-05 at 03:49 PM. Reason: Made a rules mistake originally, fixed now. Also forgot my altitude. And to say I was not evil. And to actually fix the mistake I said I was fixing.
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Well, the two touch attacks miss and your dispel...just...doesnt work.

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    Countered with Ring of Counterspelling.


    My blindsight sees your mirror images and raises you one...they dont work.


    Across the room from you stands a tall man encased in glowing gold armor. In his hand he wields a Giant Flail that glows brightly. EDIT: And there are 9 of him

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    Move, Single Attack, White Raven Tactics, Spell Theft...


    He runs across the room at you and swings his flail once.

    Attack (1d20+25)[37] melee touch attack
    Damage (8d8+25)[56]

    After that, he makes a sharp gesture with his hand; it begins to glow softly, then more and more as your magical protections are drawn to it. (He casts Spell Theft.)

    Please list all of your buffs.


    My turn is not yet completed. The rest of it will be determined after learning how many buffs I steal.
    Last edited by Olo Demonsbane; 2009-10-05 at 04:01 PM.

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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    That's a spell and/or spell-like, right? Level, please?
    And is it NOT a touch spell or area spell?
    Thelas

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    RedWizardGuy

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    Yes, 5th level.

    Its a targeted spell.

    Let me guess...you had spell turning up?

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    He does, and it bounces. A while back, Doc Roc ruled that this completely turns the spell around (Thelas acts as the caster and gains stolen buffs, but you use your CL and all that). This would be the third time this particular interaction has happened AFAIK.
    Last edited by Claudius Maximus; 2009-10-05 at 05:59 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Claudius Maximus View Post
    He does, and it bounces. A while back, Doc Roc ruled that this completely turns the spell around (Thelas acts as the caster and gains stolen buffs, but you use your CL and all that). This would be the third time this particular interaction has happened AFAIK.
    Since you mentioned buffing took a long time... have fun with all your dispel rolls, if I guessed what the spell does correctly. (Not in SRD, and I don't think I have the book.)
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Well, one of the times it bounced back was against me...or both of them, I dont remember.
    EDIT: It was both. And both times afterwards I got hit with a feeblemind

    I am prepared this time. The spell does nothing.

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    Countered by Ring of Counterspells.


    After his spell fails, he continues whacking you with his flail.

    Attack (1d20+25)[26] touch attack
    Damage (8d8+25)[63]
    Attack (1d20+25)[36] touch attack
    Damage (8d8+25)[64]
    Attack (1d20+20)[28] touch attack
    Damage (8d8+25)[70]
    Attack (1d20+15)[20] touch attack
    Damage (8d8+25)[71]

    End Turn.
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    Just wait one moment...

    Quote: my first post of the actual battle (last edit: before your post following it).
    EDIT 2: Also forgot my altitude: I'm flying at 40 ft unless I say otherwise.
    How are you hitting 40 ft up? If you are actually hitting me, that's match. If not, though...
    Thelas

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    RedWizardGuy

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    Forgot to mention, sorry: I have wings.

    You're character didnt seem as unoptimized as you made him out to be. He had a spell turning up, and had good tactics...GDM is a great spell to open with. I just HATE getting my buffs dispelled and got a few things to defend myself against it.

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    Okay, good game.
    How do you have two spells from the ring? Is it something other than the one from the MIC I'm using, or do you just have two of it?
    And how are you getting touch attacks for [toomany]d[morethan6]+[alot]?
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    Olo: how did you cast two spells per round, every round?
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Default Re: Test of Spite Olo vs Thelas

    I have 2 rings I am considering using Spell Immunity for Dispel Magic.

    As for my attack...I have Persisted Wraithstrike to give me touch attacks, Greater Mighty Wallop to increase the effective size category of my weapon, Large size due to Persisted Righteous Might, 30 Strength, Ferocity of Sanguine Rage for extra damage, GMW to give myself a +4 weapon...etc, etc.

    Tl;dr: Buffs.

    EDIT: Claudius: The secret of my build:

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    This is just for Claudius!
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    I use Prestige Paladin + Battle Blessing.
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    Well, someone had to be first to notice that. It doesn't sit well with me though, but nice find.
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    RedWizardGuy

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    Claudius:
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    Thank you. I really like this build...Im very versatile, and a great melee fighter...not to mention practically unkillable

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