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2009-10-18, 04:11 PM (ISO 8601)
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Overcoming Epic DR
Hey guys, I have a quick (and probably simple) question for you:
How do you overcome Epic DR? I'm looking specifically for either a feat or a weapon property that lets you do this.
Thanks guys!
Edit: If you guys could quote the source of your info that would be super as well.Last edited by koeldflare; 2009-10-18 at 04:14 PM.
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2009-10-18, 04:13 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
a high Caster level Greater magic weapon from the party buffer and the bane property?
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2009-10-18, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
Get a +6 weapon, duh. Really, there are few ways to bypass epic DR without getting epic weapons.
There IS, however, a way: Bane can push a non-epic (+4 or +5) weapon into Epic territory when fighting the Bane-targeted enemy (the bonus increases by +2 vs. those); especially easy with bows using Raptor Arrows which are Bane: Everything. Force [Magic Item Compendium] bow can also penetrate any DR.
Then some class features, such as Eternal Blade's [Tome of Battle] level 2 ability and Factotum's [Dungeonscape] level 11 ability that negate any DR. That's about it (other than doing energy damage or something else that DR doesn't apply to).
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2009-10-18, 04:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
You need an enhancement bonus of +6 or greater. Which yes, would include a weapon with a bane property that's already at a +4 via GMW or some other source.
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2009-10-18, 04:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
Huh. I'm just recommending stupid and useless Truespeak-based abilities all over the place today.
The useless prestige class Disciple of the Word, from the Truenaming chapter of Tome of Battle, is, as I said, useless. It's basically a Monk class that uses Truespeak. (Yo dawg, I heard you like weak-ass classes, so we put a weak-ass class in your weak-ass class so you can fail to contribute while you fail to contribute!) However, at class level 6th they do get the ability to burn a Stunning Fist use and make a Truespeak check to negate DR, which explicitly includes DR/epic if they make a DC 45 Truespeak check.
I don't recommend that you do this, but technically, it does work. I just know that no one else will mention this (for good reason), so I feel that I should bring it up.In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2009-10-18, 04:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
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2009-10-18, 06:15 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
A Shadow Striking weapon (here) might or might not work. It says it overcomes any DR, but it also says it can strike as "any material or alignment" to break DR.
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2009-10-18, 06:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
Transmuting or Shadowstriking weapons blow through all types of DR after a hit, IIRC.
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2009-10-18, 06:52 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
Sense Weakness (Draconomicon pg 106)
Requires: Int 13, Weapon Focus, Combat Expertise
Benefit: Ignore 5 point of hardness or DR (regardless of material or enhancement bonus to your weapon)Always attack a man’s strengths, No one ever expects you to attack the strongest part of the fort. Up the middle that’s where the action is. And it’s the same in life. Don’t run away, attack them head on as their coming at you at full speed. Because that my friend is living.
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2009-10-18, 07:14 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Overcoming Epic DR
Shadowstriking, as opposed to Transmuting, does not require hitting once before it starts magically penetrating DR. That's why it costs more (+3 instead of +2).
Shadowstriking is from Tome of Magic. Transmuting is from Magic Item Compendium.
There are also a few maneuvers from Tome of Battle, especially the Stone Dragon discipline, that overcome all DR. Most popular is the Level 2 Mountain Hammer maneuver, with no prerequisites; any character who's at least Level 6 can gain access to it, 1/encounter, by spending a feat or buying a 3000 gp belt.Last edited by Draz74; 2009-10-18 at 07:16 PM.
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