Werewofl + Vampire?

[Jallorn]

Could you attach the lycanthrope and vampire templates to a creature simultaneously?

[Innis Cabal]

I think the Lycanthrope template can't be placed on undead creatures. So...if they were a werewolf first? Then a Vampire. Maybe.

[Dante & Vergil]

I think the Lycanthrope template can't be placed on undead creatures. So...if they were a werewolf first? Then a Vampire. Maybe.

I would do it. I would do it nine times.
Yeah. Now on a more serious note, it can be done, you just have to be a humanoid to do it and you would have to be a werewolf first as well. I'm certain of this because I just checked the srd so no worries.
Also, this is a very neat idea, so I'll be taking this.

[Myrmex]

You'd get a hairy, bloodsucking breakfast dish?


Heh heh heh. Werewaffle.
Or maybe that's what politicians do during the full moon?
/rimshot

[Krimm_Blackleaf]

WotC has made one before. I think it's technically rule-breaking because being undead purges you of disease, but meh. It's awesome.

[Zaydos]

For a true lycanthropy it's not a disease :) I've statted it out before, but never ran one... then again I broke the rules completely and statted out a marilith vampire to be a BBEG for a campaign that never got run.

[Requiem Star]

It wouldn't be much different than having a vampiric ogre or other powerful inhuman thing turned into a vampire. It also wouldn't get much from being a lycanthrope. Both have DR that is overcome by silver.

[Krimm_Blackleaf]

It wouldn't be much different than having a vampiric ogre or other powerful inhuman thing turned into a vampire. It also wouldn't get much from being a lycanthrope. Both have DR that is overcome by silver.

Sure it would. Wearbears get +16 Str and +2 Dex on top of the vampire bonuses. Natural attacks, size increase... there are plenty of benefits above and beyond DR, though you make a good point that it's a good feature gone to waste.

[Calmar]

Mythologically vampires and werewolves are sometimes related. I once read a story that claimed vampires were the risen corpses of werewolves.
Since the vampire already has the ability to change into a wolf I'd suggest to create a new undead template that includes the werewolf's hybrid form rather than to combine both templates.

[Stycotl]

in the old world of darkness by white wolf, they were called abominations. no clue if the new world of darkness has them.

white wolf also had liches, which were either ascension mages that had been embraced to become vampires, or were vampires that awakened to become mages.

now i am curious to know if there were other cross-overs...

[Golden-Esque]

Could you attach the lycanthrope and vampire templates to a creature simultaneously?

You could probably use the Half-Vampire race (they're still technically living; most were partially corrupted while in the womb {pregnant mother bitten}, or a vampire knocked up a human {a la Twilight >.<}) and grant it lycanthropy.

[Pika...]

Could you attach the lycanthrope and vampire templates to a creature simultaneously?

Wow, that must have been a heel of a night/scene in the sack.

[Latronis]

There's nothing to say that a natural lycanthrope can't have the vampire template added in 3.5.

But either way if it's your game feel free to ignore any of those flavour rules you like. I do :P

Like a Half-dragon Minotaur Vampire Lord BBEG

[The Demented One]

You'd get a hairy, bloodsucking breakfast dish?


Heh heh heh. Werewaffle.

You have no idea. Warning: Contents will BLOW YOU ****IN' MIND!

[Stycotl]

You have no idea. Warning: Contents will BLOW YOU ****IN' MIND!

that was entertaining. another one of the white wolf cross-overs, i think...

[The Tygre]

now i am curious to know if there were other cross-overs...

The Black Dog book on Formians had rules for vampire, mage, and faerie Formians, and I think I recall Mummy having rules on mages and such.

[Jergmo]

I certainly don't see why not, as long as it's a Werewolf first. In a villain campaign, playing a necromancer mad scientist, I went mad with power and unleashed a Werewolf Ghast on a village and had it start infecting people.

[sidhe_blooded]

in the old world of darkness by white wolf, they were called abominations. no clue if the new world of darkness has them.

white wolf also had liches, which were either ascension mages that had been embraced to become vampires, or were vampires that awakened to become mages.

now i am curious to know if there were other cross-overs...

currently the new world of darkness doesn't have any crossovers with supernaturals, in fact every book I can think mentions specifically that once you have one of the "greater" supernatural templates (vampire, mage, werewolf, changeling, whatever) that you can't add another greater template and it overwrites any "minor" template (ghoul, wolf blooded, whatever) that you have. you can't combine minor templates either.

but on the 3.5 question, it'd be possible but all it would really give you would be the ability to add the animal's stat modifiers to yours in place of taking their ability scores with your alternate form ability. which granted could be some pretty big bonuses, but usually with those you've got a bunch of animal hit dice.