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2009-10-23, 12:26 AM (ISO 8601)
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bard of all trades [3.5]
Simple Question... Does it stack...
Bardic Knack: PHB 2
Jack of all trades: Complete Adventurer
The end result being, ranks equal to half of my character class + half of my bardic class... if I am all bard, I can use skills as if I had ranks = to my level...SpoilerA Fighter/Paladin will just hack you to bits
A Wizard/Sorcerer will just blow you up with a spell
A Rogue/Ranger/Monk will just kill you in your sleep
A Cleric/Druid will just squash you after buffing himself
A Bard will slowly twist your ethics, corrupt your morals, and make you do vile acts just for the chance to face him. When you fight him, he will have your family and friends fighting for him. For he wields the deadliest weapon against you and that is, his word against yours.
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2009-10-23, 12:33 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: bard of all trades [3.5]
What are you talking about? Jack of All Trades doesn't give you a bonus on skill checks. It lets you make checks in skills that you have no ranks in, even if they are trained only.
If it was your version, I would have taken it at first level...maybe third. The way they phrased it is by saying you can make checks in skills you have no ranks in as if you had half a rank in them.
As it is, it's not a very good feat, because even if your bard CAN make that decipher script (or open lock or decipher script), he's not going to make it without any ranks. And even then, how many untrained skills are there? Wouldn't it be easier to buy one rank in each of them instead of spending a whole feat?
So, I guess it's a non-issue now.Last edited by Raging Gene Ray; 2009-10-23 at 12:39 AM.
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2009-10-23, 12:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: bard of all trades [3.5]
Also does not synergies with Bardic Knack. Read the two descriptions closely.
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2009-10-23, 12:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: bard of all trades [3.5]
Huh?
Jack of all trades lets you make checks as if you had 1/2 of a rank. Not 1/2 times anything. It doesn't actually give you ranks, or treat anything but checks as if you had that amount. It does let you make trained checks
Likewise, Bardic Knowledge allows you to make checks as you had 1/2 your bard level of ranks in that skill. Doesn't do anything for untrained.
So no, they don't stack, and in fact, they don't even stack with skill ranks in that skill. You use Jack of all trades to let you make trained checks, and you use Bardic Knowledge if you want to be halfways decent with all skills. The two can be used together, but they don't stack as such.
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2009-10-23, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: bard of all trades [3.5]
What I meant was that Jack of All Trades does not let you use Bardic Knack on trained skills. It just allows you to make the check as if you were trained in it. The skill is still a trained skill, and as such, requires you to have 1 rank in it for Bardic Knack.
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2009-10-23, 12:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: bard of all trades [3.5]
Note that it's not an uncommon houserule to allow the two to interact: sure, you now can makes checks in every skill, but generally you're better served with making higher checks.
He fears his fate too much, and his reward is small, who will not put it to the touch, to win or lose it all.
-James Graham, 1st Marquess of Montrose
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2009-10-23, 12:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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