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    Ogre in the Playground
     
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    Default [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    the offending quote:

    If you use this ability to heal injuries, you channel positive
    energy to heal a living creature of a number of points
    of damage equal to twice your factotum level + your Int
    modifier. The energy will also deal the same amount of
    damage to undead targets.
    1. What is the range for this ability? Touch makes the most sense, but nowhere in the text is it specified.

    2. Which mathematical formula would be appropriate for determining the damage healed? 2(factotum level +int mod) or 2(factotum level) +int mod?

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    Default Re: [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    2:PEMDAS, though 1*2*2!=1*3, so hardly the only exception in D&D math.

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    Default Re: [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    Quote Originally Posted by deuxhero View Post
    2:PEMDAS, though 1*2*2!=1*3, so hardly the only exception in D&D math.
    The problem is you don't know if there are any parenthesis. However, bonuses are applied in the most beneficial order, so I'd go with the first.
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    Default Re: [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    My reading.

    1. Touch. Every other healing ability I can think of is touch.
    2. (Factotum Level * 2) + Int. That fits the standard order of operations, and it would put it in line with other healing abilities. 2(Factotum level + Int) seems too strong, considering that you can use it 2 + (Factotum level/5) + Wis bonus times per day.

    I stipulate that this is based entirely upon my horse sense, not any specific rule. You might want to check the errata and FAQ for a more official ruling.

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    Default Re: [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    I agree with (lvl x 2) + Int, and Touch range.

    Now, does Opportunistic Piety fuel divine feats?

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    Default Re: [3.5] factotum - opportunistic piety, vague wording

    Quote Originally Posted by Sstoopidtallkid View Post
    The problem is you don't know if there are any parenthesis. However, bonuses are applied in the most beneficial order, so I'd go with the first.
    I think they would say "twice the sum of your factotum level and your int bonus" or similarly worded if it was intended that way, and that's the way you see it written for abilities which do that. An assumption that the author doesn't know the order of operations is not enough to go on to say you can do whatever you want with it.
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