Vampire III: Sunnydale Nights

[Zar Peter]

I point at Reinholdt, I killed Mordy in this game once, I don't want to kill him twice.

[Jontom Xire]

Looks like it's pretty clear who's going to get lynched today.
evnafets looks like you were up to no good too

Freudian slip I think! The implication is that you were up to no good on night 1!

So Fleeing Coward has a night action (or an object that gives him a night action). We know that because he got caught in a trap (resists urge to break into song). That makes him the perfect choice for vampire night kill - so why didn't he get night-killed?

1) The majority of vampires didn't notice or were too apathetic to care.
2) They tried and a coven was formed.
3) The vampires were afraid he would get baned.

Reason 1) doesn't quite wash for me. Trying to kill FC gives them the perfect opportunity to either kill a powerful enemy or link up to a powerful ally.

Reason 3) doesn't work for me either. After all the baner would have no idea if FC was friend or foe, so is unlikely to protect him (as in fact turned out to be the case).

So my betting is on reason 2. But I could be wrong.

[Murska]

Why do I get the feeling that's just to save Mordokai?

Let's check it tomorrow instead.

[Thufir]

I think FC was referring to this post by evnafets:

Hey, did you hear what happened to Fleeing Coward?
He was probably on his way to do some mischief to someone.

Admittedly, this doesn't mean he's not a vampire...

[Freshmeat]

*points at Mordokai*

[Dirk Kris]

Oddity stubles out of his trancelike state. Daytime detention is not the way to go in Sunndale. A whole 12 hours (he is a very troubled individual) staring at a blank page does certain things to yor Psyche. He walks towards his first class, hoping to catch a few precious moments of slumber before the overly enthusiastic chatter of the mindless masses filled his head. No luck though, soon enough all he could hear was Hey man that's my seat and So I like walked up to him and he was like I'ma throw you on the floor Oh my gosh he didn't AoRoGoHh
Oddity merely sat with his head on the desk, dreaming of a time he didn't have to be so attentive.
He would have had a repeat of so many days; fall asleep, miss the next class, get a detention, if it wasn't for his eyes noticing a particularly beautiful girl. He couldn't help but stare, seemingly new, she was all alone noone acknowledged her. Despite his laid back appearance, Oddity was not inclined to immediately start talking to her, he was quite the observer and preferred to appear disinterested. (even if he was particularly interested)

It wasn't until after lunch that he made his move, albeit unintentionally. Sauntering towards class as he always did, she came flying into him from round the corner apparently chasing he backpack which had made its way into the middle of the hallway moments before. In an effort of pure emotional indifference Oddity calmly lifts the bag from the ground and hands it to the girl. You ok? Yeah, thanks! Name's Oddity, but everyone calls me Odd. Can't see why they would, the vacant gaze, slumped pose not to mention the non matching socks. They must be crazy! Hey, be quiet. A smile appears on his face Whats your name?[/SIZE]

((New girl? With my font color? Must be me!))
Starla is surprised by the new guy bumping into her as she waits for Paul's answer. She smiles gratefully as he retrieves her bag and hands it back to her. "Starla. Nice to meet you." She sticks her hand out for a shake. "I haven't seen you in class the last few days since I've been here - are you new too?"

[Lamech]

Err... Mordy

[calar]

Yeah, Ive been thinking Reinholdt for some time.

[Reinholdt]

Mister Buttons yawns, blinking awake. It was night! Night's when stuff happens! Hooray for nocturnal.

((Mordokai isn't me.))

[Jontom Xire]

Why do I get the feeling that's just to save Mordokai?

Let's check it tomorrow instead.

Sorry, not been keeping up that well - what was the evidence against Mordokai again?

I'm guessing it's that someone thought he was suspicious for no real reason - again.

[Murska]

He was lynched. He was a vampire. Then he was resurrected.

[Zar Peter]

My guess is he was a Vampire and then bitten by a normal... now he's turning normal but no one believes him

[Jontom Xire]

He was lynched. He was a vampire. Then he was resurrected.

Which as the narrator has pointed out at least once I think, guarantees that he's a vampire again.

No, wait, that's the wrong way round.

Which as the narrator has pointed out at least once I think, does not guarantee that he's a vampire again.

[Jontom Xire]

I'm not trying to save Mordokai, in fact I have half a hunch that they may be lying to us and that Mordokai is in fact guaranteed to be a vampire, but how about we try a bit of logic instead of mass hysteria.

Plus, if Mordokai isn't a vampire I find it very amusing that the Necromancer raised a vampire from the dead only to bolster our ranks. Which would weaken the vampire position only if we don't lynch him.

[Murska]

He might be a vampire, a vampire powerrole or a villager. His behavious points slightly towards vampire.

Are you really telling me you have someone more likely for us to lynch?

[Mustiado]

I really dont think we should be lynching Mordokai again. If I recall correctly his role is randomized when he comes back.

Hyozo as a protest against Senseless lynch based on avatar.

[Eldritch Knight]

Lamech is up to something, I think.

[BishFish]

Reinholdt against sensless lynching!!
wait a second...
thufir 2
Mordokai 8
reinholdt 6
banjo 1
zar peter 1
lamech 2
piratemonk 2
jontom Xire 1
calar 1
evafnets 1
fleeing coward 1
hyozo 1

[Shadow]

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I'm not trying to save Mordokai, in fact I have half a hunch that they may be lying to us and that Mordokai is in fact guaranteed to be a vampire

To solve any argument, I'll (somewhat) explain it.
Helgraf and I have rules regarding deceased players returning to the game.
I will not explain all of these rules, but I will point out that Vampires start blind. They don't know each other.
So would it be implausible for the narrators to take the first day's lynch who has absolutely no knowledge of any other bad guy, and change his team?
No, it would not be implausible.
I'm not saying we did.
I'm not saying we didn't.
But we realistically could have gone either way and no one would be the wiser.
The game balance would not be effected by it at all.
No secrets would be revealed.

So choose for yourselves what you think we did, because we literally could have done either without affecting a single thing regarding balance.

To answer:
Mordokai is not guaranteed to be a vampire, as you seem to think.

[Murska]

He isn't a guaranteed vampire but he is pretty much guaranteed not to be the second seer or baner or something. Worth a shot.

[Yspoch]

Hmm, after reading all of this, I'll just stay with my random point. I don't want to lynch Mordokai and the alternative of lynching Reinholdt doesn't appeal to me either - he's Mr. Bottoms after all!

[Oddity]

((New girl? With my font color? Must be me!))
Starla is surprised by the new guy bumping into her as she waits for Paul's answer. She smiles gratefully as he retrieves her bag and hands it back to her. "Starla. Nice to meet you." She sticks her hand out for a shake. "I haven't seen you in class the last few days since I've been here - are you new too?"

((whoops sorry thought you used the other color ))

Oddity smiles as he shakes Starla's hand. I wish, sadly there isn't a teacher in the school who doesn't know me. So where'd you move from?

[Fleeing Coward]

Jontom, regarding the "Freudian slip", like Thufir already said, I was replying to evnafet's day 2 point at me saying that I was up to mischief only for him to fall into the trap himself last night

As for your theory, unless I remember incorrectly, in this game if the highest amount of votes is against a vampire, there'd be just not kill for the right but last night there ws a kill attempt on what is most likely the baner so your logic makes no sense about a coven been formed by vampires attacking me.

[Uncle Festy]

Zar Peter, for having a clearly accurate theory.

[GAThraawn]

Mustadio Mordokai, because the majority I can't possibly be wrong, can they I?

(Don't answer that)

[Opeth_Freak]

Mustadio, because the majority can't possibly be wrong, can they?

1) Yes, it can

2) What majority? You're the first one who's voting him

Anyway, Reinholdt, because I really think that constant attempts to kill AGAIN someone who already died once is not cool.

[Lex-Kat]

Opeth Freak, because I don't remember ever voting for him in the past, and I'm horrible at analyzing things so early in the game.

[Philistine]

Starla blushes prettily, her cheeks flaring crimson against her pale complexion. "Thanks. You, um, you don't have to do that. Flatter me, I mean. I mean, come on, you don't even know me yet. We sat next to each other in math for two days." She realizes she is rambling and likely making a fool of herself, and yet she can't stop the flow of nonsense. "Now, if you ever actually CALLED me or hung out with me sometime, I might believe you a little more. Tell you what, come to the game with me tonight, and then I'll accept your apology. Deal?" Her eyes twinkle, teasing him and clearly enjoying it.

"Pffft. Who says I was even talking about you? I could be saying that people here don't know what they're missing by not welcoming new faces in general, and you're just so self-centered that you assume I must be talking about you in particular," Paul retorts, mouth twitching as he attempts to repress a grin. "Being the magnanimous fellow that I am, however, I suppose I could watch the game with you tonight. Meet up at your place at, oh, six?"

(( Point at Reinholdt. Everyone knows kitties are Eeeeeeeeeeebil. ))

[Jontom Xire]

He might be a vampire, a vampire powerrole or a villager. His behavious points slightly towards vampire.

Are you really telling me you have someone more likely for us to lynch?

I think so, read my post.

Jontom, regarding the "Freudian slip", like Thufir already said, I was replying to evnafet's day 2 point at me saying that I was up to mischief only for him to fall into the trap himself last night

As for your theory, unless I remember incorrectly, in this game if the highest amount of votes is against a vampire, there'd be just not kill for the right but last night there ws a kill attempt on what is most likely the baner so your logic makes no sense about a coven been formed by vampires attacking me.

Last game (I think it was last game) I was a vampire and we formed a coven even on nights when someone was killed. It went like this:

A and B vote to kill me.
I vote to kill someone else.
C, D, and E vote to kill F.

Result? F dies and A, B, and I form a coven.

That actually happened twice last game.

[Fleeing Coward]

Last game (I think it was last game) I was a vampire and we formed a coven even on nights when someone was killed. It went like this:

A and B vote to kill me.
I vote to kill someone else.
C, D, and E vote to kill F.

Result? F dies and A, B, and I form a coven.

That actually happened twice last game.

Can the narrators confirm or deny this? I just assumed the only circumstances a coven was formed is if the vampires attacked another vampire.

I had read your reasoning as the majority of vampire tried to attack me but that obviously wasn't the case.
Regarding myself been the perfect night kill yesterday, there were 3 viable targets the vampires would have been thinking about yesterday - the baner, Murska and myself. They picked the baner which is hardly unusual although a stupid play by the vampires in my opinion.
Also, I'd like to mention that there is no reason for the vampires to attack me, I'm sure it's only a matter of time before the neutral masons tried that themselves although I'm going to say that I ain't one of the targets they're after.