Tiamat is Bahamut's wife?

[Mystic Muse]

Or at least she was intended to be. WHERE in the nine hells did I get this from? Is there a book somewhere I read this or did I get this from those Eldritch abominations people call dreams?laughs at the people's minds breaking.

[ocdscale]

It would explain their antagonism.

[Mystic Muse]

well in4th edition at least Tiamat and Bahamut are two halves of Io. I wanted to say "two halves of the same whole" but what that implies is a bit squicky.

[Dimers]

Man, what a messy divorce ... she got almost all the heads.

[Kylarra]

Man, what a messy divorce ... she got almost all the heads.

Not the important one, assuming metallics are his children.

[Edea]

This might be relevant.

[Coidzor]

<_< >_>

I don't know.

I got a similar impression.

There's actually a place called the straits of Tiamat from where she whomped on Bahamut when the marriage was attempted to be consummated in one of my setting ideas. Something about their mixed blood and the earth being rent asunder and kobolds popping out of the mixed earth and sea and blood and divine spark and so on and so forth.

Sort of a Lilith-like figure, I suppose...


So, you're not alone in pondering this, yeah.

[Lvl45DM!]

Nah brother and sister

[Mystic Muse]

from what I've been told it's crazy but I SWEAR I read this somewhere. It's possible it was in a dream. However that disproves the myth that you can't read in dreams. heck I disproved that one last night when I was talking to the dream version of one of my friends on AIM

[Starscream]

I heard that she was intended to be his wife, but he rejected her because of her general evilosity. So while she hates him, she also kind of wants him. And they are siblings as well, for added squick.

Or not. I may be misremembering some stuff, or combining multiple editions or something.

[Mystic Muse]

well they aren't related in my campaign so the "Brother/sister squick" is gone. And honestly there are worse things in several mythologies than a brother and a sister getting together. Heck compared to SOME things being with your brother/sister looks bleeping sane.

EDIT: Assurbanipal is a Daedric shrine in Morrowind. O_o

[Kylarra]

I heard that she was intended to be his wife, but he rejected her because of her general evilosity. So while she hates him, she also kind of wants him. And they are siblings as well, for added squick.

Or not. I may be misremembering some stuff, or combining multiple editions or something.

Eh, sibling-spouses are about par for the course with mythology.

[Dusk Eclipse]

IIRC Io the primal deity anc creator of the dragons created/bore both Tiamat and Bahamut with the itention that they would eventually marry/mate(?) I think this is in either the Draconomicon (3.5) or Races of the Dragon

[Mystic Muse]

that's probably where it was. Thanks.

[Mando Knight]

from what I've been told it's crazy but I SWEAR I read this somewhere.

Perhaps here? Around post #47...

[Hal]

well they aren't related in my campaign so the "Brother/sister squick" is gone. And honestly there are worse things in several mythologies than a brother and a sister getting together. Heck compared to SOME things being with your brother/sister looks bleeping sane.

I wonder where minotaurs originated in your typical D&D settings.

[deuxhero]

Nah brother and sister

As Greek mythology shows us, not exactly mutually exclusive.

[chiasaur11]

This'll just proliferate over the whole internet, won't it?

We'll have so much to answer for.

[nightwyrm]

As Greek mythology shows us, not exactly mutually exclusive.

When you're a god and all the other gods are your siblings, who else are you gonna marry?

[deuxhero]

When you're a god and all the other gods are your siblings, who else are you gonna marry?

I don't think that Zeus was quite willing on the marriage (not to say that he didn't deserve her, because he completely did for his regular "antics").

[Crafty Cultist]

In races of the dragon it says that Io created Tiamat and bahamut as opposites so their children would embody all aspects of dragon kind; essentially the perfect dragon. however, they hated each other from the get-go so the perfect dragons were never created

[Kylarra]

This'll just proliferate over the whole internet, won't it?

We'll have so much to answer for.

Could be worse.

[OracleofWuffing]

When you're a god and all the other gods are your siblings, who else are you gonna marry?

Arguably, Semele. Who herself was the daughter of a goddess and a mortal.

[Falconer]

When you're a god and all the other gods are your siblings, who else are you gonna marry?

Well, there were plenty of Titanesses still around after the Titanomachy. A good chunk of the Titans actually didn't like Cronus, and sided with Zeus, as I understand it.

A mythology nut? Yes, yes I am.

[Lycanthromancer]

Well, there were plenty of Titanesses still around after the Titanomachy. A good chunk of the Titans actually didn't like Cronus, and sided with Zeus, as I understand it.

A mythology nut? Yes, yes I am.

Didn't stop Zeus from eternally punishing half of them, though.

He was a real bastard.

[nightwyrm]

Well, there were plenty of Titanesses still around after the Titanomachy. A good chunk of the Titans actually didn't like Cronus, and sided with Zeus, as I understand it.

A mythology nut? Yes, yes I am.

Aren't all of them related anyways? The titans being Zeus' uncles and aunts. Well, he did have a kid (Athena) with one of them.

In any case, I think all the gods except for Aphrodite were related to each other in some way, so yeah...

[FoE]

I hold the 4E origin story to be canon, as it is super-cool.

[Grommen]

I wonder where minotaurs originated in your typical D&D settings.

Minotaurs hell! How about Centars. Beer had to be involved a some point somewhere.

The dragon Lore might come from Dragonlance under the guise of Takahisis and Palidine? Not exactly sure but they share a very similar mythology.

[chiasaur11]

Didn't stop Zeus from eternally punishing half of them, though.

He was a real bastard.

Like everyone else in Greek myth.

[Katana_Geldar]

Arguably, Semele. Who herself was the daughter of a goddess and a mortal.

Didn't stop her from bursting into flames though, the kid survived in his Dad's thigh. Go figure.

And Zeus ate his first wife, Metis, I think she was a titan.