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    Default Monsters with built in casting/manifesting

    What monsters are there with built in caster levels? Not 'This example of a creature with X racial hit dice and Y class levels', and not spell likes, true casting. Preferably ones that are playable.

    Stuff like the unbodied – LA +4, then 4 racial HD that also count as Psion (Telepath) levels. A Raksha casts as a 7th level Sorcerer (which is its hit dice), Trumpet Archon's cast as 14 level clerics, Dragons are sorcers of ((Age Catagory - 3 to 6)*2)+1.

    What other stuff is there out there that gets built in spellcasting?

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    All the angels (Astral Deva, Planetar and Solar) have BOTH divine spellcasting AND spell-like abilities.

    The Gem dragons from MM2 manifest as psions, although MM2 still refers to the 3.0 psionics rules.

    The Psionic version of the Illithid manifests as a psion. Then there's the Elder Brain.

    Almost all such creatures are practically unplayable due to LA.
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    Nymphs - Built-in Druid Levels
    Basic Rakshasas - Built in Sorcerer Levels
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    Couatls get 9th level Sorcerer casting, and Glouras get 7th level bard casting. The Gloura's even playable (low LA, nice ability scores, cha to AC and saves, and wings).
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    Nagas -sorcerer/druid
    Araneas -sorcerer
    Ethergaunts -wizard
    Phaerimm -sorcerer
    Sharn -sorcerer+cleric
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cyclocone View Post
    Sharn -sorcerer+cleric
    I really like the Sharn, but it's blatantly not its claimed ECL 9. I may look at making a race-class for it, taking it up to somewhere around 20.

    Thanks for all the responses folks.

    Essentially, I'm going to be playing in a monster campaign soon, and want something with a bit more flexibility, a bit more ability to enter prestige classes. Thus, a spellcasting monster seems a possibility.

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    Sylph -> Built in sorcerer levels. Though to make them acceptable, you'd probably have to remove their spell-like abilities (or tone them down).
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpikeFightwicky View Post
    Sylph -> Built in sorcerer levels. Though to make them acceptable, you'd probably have to remove their spell-like abilities (or tone them down).
    They do seem rather well stocked for powers. Though at least they're not as silly as the aforementioned Sharn.

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