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2009-11-19, 08:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
What monsters are there with built in caster levels? Not 'This example of a creature with X racial hit dice and Y class levels', and not spell likes, true casting. Preferably ones that are playable.
Stuff like the unbodied – LA +4, then 4 racial HD that also count as Psion (Telepath) levels. A Raksha casts as a 7th level Sorcerer (which is its hit dice), Trumpet Archon's cast as 14 level clerics, Dragons are sorcers of ((Age Catagory - 3 to 6)*2)+1.
What other stuff is there out there that gets built in spellcasting?
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2009-11-19, 08:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
All the angels (Astral Deva, Planetar and Solar) have BOTH divine spellcasting AND spell-like abilities.
The Gem dragons from MM2 manifest as psions, although MM2 still refers to the 3.0 psionics rules.
The Psionic version of the Illithid manifests as a psion. Then there's the Elder Brain.
Almost all such creatures are practically unplayable due to LA.Last edited by AslanCross; 2009-11-19 at 08:44 AM.
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2009-11-19, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
Nymphs - Built-in Druid Levels
Basic Rakshasas - Built in Sorcerer Levels
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2009-11-19, 08:55 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
Couatls get 9th level Sorcerer casting, and Glouras get 7th level bard casting. The Gloura's even playable (low LA, nice ability scores, cha to AC and saves, and wings).
Last edited by tonberrian; 2009-11-19 at 09:00 AM.
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2009-11-19, 09:01 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
Nagas -sorcerer/druid
Araneas -sorcerer
Ethergaunts -wizard
Phaerimm -sorcerer
Sharn -sorcerer+clericIf a tree falls in a forest, the Druid will make sure you hear about it.
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2009-11-19, 09:20 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
I really like the Sharn, but it's blatantly not its claimed ECL 9. I may look at making a race-class for it, taking it up to somewhere around 20.
Thanks for all the responses folks.
Essentially, I'm going to be playing in a monster campaign soon, and want something with a bit more flexibility, a bit more ability to enter prestige classes. Thus, a spellcasting monster seems a possibility.
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2009-11-19, 09:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Monsters with built in casting/manifesting
Sylph -> Built in sorcerer levels. Though to make them acceptable, you'd probably have to remove their spell-like abilities (or tone them down).
Last edited by SpikeFightwicky; 2009-11-19 at 09:44 AM.
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2009-11-19, 10:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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