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2009-11-20, 03:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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so, playin' a kitty kat
Alright I’ve just been discussing things with my Dm and he has approved of my character, an awakened housecat rogue. level 6, with 13K of gold to spend on magic gear.
So my stats look like this: Str 8, dex 23, con 14, int 12, wis 10, cha 10
get the size, racial skills and the feats. But I waive the two HD (magical beast) I would get from the awakened spell.
Now I’ve got a bunch of money to spend. What sorts of magic gear do you the playground suggest.
The DM has already banned the battle belt and anything else from MIC must be cleared by him. But I’m cool with that.
Now before anyone asks, I’m not playing Puss ‘n Boots here. so no magic rapiers. I plan on using my natural claw and bite attacks to deliver sneak attack damage. so a way to enhance the attacks is always a bonus.
Also I’m thinking of prestege classing out of rogue, anyone have any good ideas for a house cat sneak.
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2009-11-20, 03:17 AM (ISO 8601)
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Also a reminder: you need to put ranks in preform dance. Cuz cats need to dance dance dance.Originally Posted by Alabenson
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2009-11-20, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Swordsage. It synergizes well with rogue, and if you take Setting Sun, you get to be a housecat who chucks people around. There's no downside!
Also, consider the Psychic Rogue. It's not the strongest psionic class out there, but I love the image of a psionic kitty. (Think about how cats stare... they've got a psionic power or two, don't they?)In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2009-11-20, 03:25 AM (ISO 8601)
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a cat with catfall? Brilliant!
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2009-11-20, 06:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so, playin' a kitty kat
Monk/Unarmed Swordsage (depending on your DM's aversion to ToB) seems an intuitive choice.
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2009-11-20, 06:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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And remember, cats are Chaotic.
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2009-11-20, 06:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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Dragon Compendium has the Tibbit. Sort of a were house cat thingy
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2009-11-20, 06:52 AM (ISO 8601)
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Second the idea you put ranks in Dance.
And be a Shadowdancer.
The Shadow companion and Shadow Step are perfect for a housecat, and the Hide in Plain Sight is brilliant.
As for magic items? For something without thumbs?
well, get a RoP and a Ring of Natural Armor. Up that kitty cat AC. With some ranks in Tumble and your tiny size, you should already be dang hard to hit. nothing wrong with making it even harder ^_^
Also, Amulet of Mighty Fists is a great idea. As is the Monk's belt.
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2009-11-20, 07:15 AM (ISO 8601)
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I think Swordsage/rogue/shadowdancer would be a combination for you to play, especaly if you can get claws to count as a shadow blade weapon, making it possible to get dex to damage.
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2009-11-20, 09:38 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 10:39 AM (ISO 8601)
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Wow, those are really generous stats. Like really, really generous. Cats should be -8 Str, +4 Dex, +1 Wis, -4 Cha(+1d3) as an awakened PC. Assuming rolling max on the Charisma die (and a +1 to Dex from lvl4), you're working off a 40 point buy.
For reference, your cat can drag 200lbs. That's a normal-sized housecat dragging a full-grown man across the ground. Then again I suppose that's what fantasy games are all about.
For a prestige class to go into: Assassin. Get the evil requirement waived, its a stupid requirement(there are planty of good reasons to have people killed). I think Chaotic Neutral is a perfectly fine alignment for an assassin (after all, how else would you describe a cat's alignment?) A cuddly little kitty should have no problem infiltrating a target's base, and would have ample opportunity for the three-round Death Attack build up.
The lvl 8 Hide in Plain Sight would be a wish-fulfillment for any cat. They already think they have the ability, Imagine what would happen if they actually could hide behind a shoe?
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2009-11-20, 11:06 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 12:03 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 12:08 PM (ISO 8601)
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How about looking in Savage Species, there are items in there for those without opposable thumbs.
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2009-11-20, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 12:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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I like to build rogues with the Dark template from ToM. You get nice bonuses to Move Silently and Hide, a 10 foot bonus to speed, and best of all you can Hide in Plain Sight whenever you are out of direct daylight. Not bad for +1 LA, and a Dark Kitty of Doom sounds like a fun character to play.
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2009-11-20, 07:53 PM (ISO 8601)
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Yeah, he’s starting everyone with the “epic array”. And I’m taking –8 str, +4 dex and +2 wisdom. So my stats are quite good.
Ok, I’ve decided to go with the rogue/swordsage/shadowdancer. I got my natural attacks to always count as preferred weapons. I also did some changes to my stats, they now look like this: str 4, dex 23, con 14, int 10, wis 18, charisma 8.
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2009-11-20, 07:58 PM (ISO 8601)
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Any plans to use Bhu's cat burglar class?
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2009-11-20, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 08:40 PM (ISO 8601)
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The tibbit has something going for it: Some of it's gear in humanoid shape will morph along with it to kitty shape.
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2009-11-20, 08:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-11-20, 08:45 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: so, playin' a kitty kat
Just remember that cats are exceedingly nonconformist and exceedingly distractable. Make sure to play this up. One of the more hard-handed ways to do this goes like this:
1: All right, we go somewhere.
catplayer: I stay put.
2: What do you mean, you stay put?
catplayer: I...stay put. I'm looking at the window.
1: No, you're not, you're coming with us.
catplayer: I'm just not coming.
3: "Hey you! Come on!"
catplayer: "Why...?"
2: You don't move?
catplayer: You're going to have to grab my attention somehow. Or drag me.
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2009-11-20, 10:31 PM (ISO 8601)
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Opposed grapple checks!
That might be work out Normally it might annoy your players but if the party's meatshield just grabs you and takes you along anyway you could get away with not being a team player. Then he strokes your back and gives you some catnip and all is forgotten.Last edited by Ormur; 2009-11-20 at 10:34 PM.
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Having just run a Tibbit caster, a couple pieces of advice.
1: Never walk anywhere. You're 12 lbs, it's easier for them to carry you, and that way you don't get your paws dirty. You're better than that.
2: Hand of the Mage. This is vital for you to be able to drink at a tavern(milk only, Kumis if you've had a bad day).
3: The party exists to serve you. Remember this.
4: A party member petting you gets a +2 to Intimidate. Use that.
5: Hide checks are unnecessary in many situations. How many people notice a cat wandering around and are suspicious of it?[/sarcasm]
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2009-11-21, 06:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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In particular, get that Collar of Perpetual Attendance ASAP (only 2000 GP). Unseen Servant at will, which not only makes your life easier, you can get a leg-up in the action economy by directing your Unseen Servant with a move action to perform standard or full-round actions.
For example, buy some bags of marbles (A&EG p 24, 2sp per bag). Tell the unseen servant to spread the marbles under one of your opponents for your own personal 5'x5' square of non-magical grease. Use your standard action to attack, and since your opponent is now on a slippery surface, if he doesn't have 5 ranks in Balance, he's now flat-footed.
Your unseen servant can retrieve/fold nets, drop smokesticks for cover, drop bags of acid/alchemists fire for splash damage, it can bull rush or block opponents from charging, it can carry a darkwood feycraft tower shield to provide cover. And if your character is lighter than 20 lbs... it can pick you up for a 30' fly speed.
It just occurred to me that there may be some additional issues... is your character tiny or small sized? If tiny, then you're going to have some problems with melee. You don't threaten the squares arround you, and you can only attack someone by entering their space. This provokes an AoO.
There's two ways around this: 1) the Elusive Dance feat from Dragon #333 (check Realmshelp for details), or 2) Underfoot Combat/Confound the Big Folk from Races of the Wild.
Unfortunately, both Underfoot Combat and Confound the Big Folk require 10 ranks of Tumble, which is incredibly annoying because it means you can't take Underfoot Combat until ECL 9, and Confound the Big Folk at ECL 12. You can get around this and take them at 6th/9th by using the Favored/Primary Contact feats from Cityscape, but that means blowing your 1st and 3rd feats on nearly useless prereqs. If your DM allows feat retraining (or Psychic Reformation/Dark Chaos Shuffle), then you may want to consider this (retraining Favored/Primary Contact at ECL 7), otherwise it'll take too darned long to get it all working.Last edited by Darrin; 2009-11-21 at 08:58 AM.
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