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    Troll in the Playground
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    Default Cleric presteige classes

    I'm playing in an Iron Kingdoms game, as a Trollkin Barbarian 2/Cleric 4.

    It's going fine, but I like nifty class abilities, which clerics most defineately do not have. I'm trying to play as a buffer/CCer, with some healing powers on the side.

    So I was wondering if anyone knew of a cleric presteige class that synergized well with a melee class.

    Thanks.
    trill in da playground

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    Colossus in the Playground
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    Default Re: Cleric presteige classes

    You don't really need to synergize the Cleric PrC with melee classes given that Cleric spells do a lot of meleeing for you. That said, few options do exist:
    Bone Knight [5Nations]
    Fist of Raziel [BoED]
    Knight of the Raven [EtCRavenloft]

    They all lose a level of casting for full BAB. They also get a variety of handy abilities. Now, the true Cleric Warrior PrCs (Ordained Champion [CChamp], Ruby Knight Vindicator [ToB]) are kinda behind you already due to losing two more levels of casting, something that would really hamper your spell progression.

    You can also go for the medium BAB full casting PrCs like Sacred Exorcist [CDiv], Radiant Servant [CDiv], Church Inquisitor [CDiv], Dweomerkeeper [CDiv Web] (Best. PrC. Ever.) or similars, and profit. There's also half BAB stuff around (you can fix that with Divine Power tho) that gets some help in form of great class features; examples include Divine Disciple [PGtF], Divine Oracle [CDiv] (goes great with Loremaster [DMG] to synergize the entry prerequisites and to get back the lost feat) and Contemplative [CDiv]. Then there's random stuff like Ruathar [RoTW], that works if you feel like it.


    Note that some of this stuff is cross-settings (Bone Knight, Knight of the Raven and Divine Disciple), but with some persuasion, I'm sure that won't be a problem given the difficulty of finding stuff to suit your fancy in Iron Kingdoms.
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    Troll in the Playground
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    Default Re: Cleric presteige classes

    Thanks. And I'm not really worried about optimizing. The only other caster is a gunmage, and we have a Fighter/Exemplar near the high end of power. That says something about our optimization level, I'm sure.
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    Dhunina, Devourer or Morrow?
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    Default Re: Cleric presteige classes

    There's practically an entire book for them called Complete Divine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldariel View Post
    You don't really need to synergize the Cleric PrC with melee classes given that Cleric spells do a lot of meleeing for you. That said, few options do exist:
    Bone Knight [5Nations]
    Fist of Raziel [BoED]
    Knight of the Raven [EtCRavenloft]

    They all lose a level of casting for full BAB. They also get a variety of handy abilities. Now, the true Cleric Warrior PrCs (Ordained Champion [CChamp], Ruby Knight Vindicator [ToB]) are kinda behind you already due to losing two more levels of casting, something that would really hamper your spell progression.

    You can also go for the medium BAB full casting PrCs like Sacred Exorcist [CDiv], Radiant Servant [CDiv], Church Inquisitor [CDiv], Dweomerkeeper [CDiv Web] (Best. PrC. Ever.) or similars, and profit. There's also half BAB stuff around (you can fix that with Divine Power tho) that gets some help in form of great class features; examples include Divine Disciple [PGtF], Divine Oracle [CDiv] (goes great with Loremaster [DMG] to synergize the entry prerequisites and to get back the lost feat) and Contemplative [CDiv]. Then there's random stuff like Ruathar [RoTW], that works if you feel like it.
    Minor note here that the feat Practiced Spellcaster (CAr) also partially offsets the loss of casting levels when taking these PrCs, since it raises your caster level by 4 (but not above your hit dice.) It doesn't affect number of spells known or levels of spell known, only caster level, though, so as I say it's not a complete solution, but, well, it's something...

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    Troll in the Playground
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    Default Re: Cleric presteige classes

    Quote Originally Posted by Leon View Post
    Dhunina, Devourer or Morrow?
    Dhunia.

    And BerserkMonk, I realize that, but not many of them would work to well with what I'm wanting. That, and I don't own CD.
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    What books/Resources do you have available
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