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    Default Invocations VS Spells

    I'd like to list the general pro's and cons of each please.
    Which is superior in which department as it were.


    Invocations
    Self buffs
    Repetition of utility effects
    Cursing enemies
    Dispelling Effects
    Duration

    Spells
    General Effectiveness/Power
    Range
    Area of Effect
    Ally buffs
    Variety

    Any others?

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Invocations: Unlimited use

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Why are invocations better self-buffs? Last I checked cleric spells were much fancier. Why are they better debuffs?

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Why are invocations better self-buffs? Last I checked cleric spells were much fancier. Why are they better debuffs?
    +1 on the debuffs thing.

    On self-buffs...... incovation buffs last all day, but are weaker on the whole.
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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Quote Originally Posted by Foryn Gilnith View Post
    Why are invocations better self-buffs? Last I checked cleric spells were much fancier. Why are they better debuffs?

    Duration mostly

    Bestow curse or eldritch essences applied over and over are bound to get through unless your DM has blessed die

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Quote Originally Posted by aje8 View Post
    +1 on the debuffs thing.

    On self-buffs...... incovation buffs last all day, but are weaker on the whole.
    That's the whole thing about invocations: they last all day/can be used unlimited times per day, but are almost always weaker, for the level you get them at.

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Is there an Invocation that mimics bestow curse? where?

    invocations
    Pros:they have a better fluff (at least in my opinion), they are spameable, I think that at lower levels they are better

    con: really few about 20 IIRC if you take 20 lvls of warlok (DFA might have more but I am not that familiar with the class.

    Spells
    Pros: at higher levels they pretty much own invocations in every way except duration and uses per day. They are more powerful, greater versatility, I bet there is a spell (or inovdative aplication of such spell) for almost if not every situation you might fing

    Cons: Limited Uses per day, in some campaings it might be difficult to get spells out of the ones you gain automatically when you level up

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Apples to oranges.

    Spells have more bang for your buck, hands down. But invocations will go all day and all night.

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    Default Re: Invocations VS Spells

    Quote Originally Posted by DuskEclipse View Post
    Is there an Invocation that mimics bestow curse? where?
    Curse of despair, complete arcane 132...ish

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radiun View Post
    Curse of despair, complete arcane 132...ish

    thanks, now I know whats the next invocation my warlock is going to take when he levels up

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