Can You Use Permancy On Gentle Repose? (3.5)

[FerhagoRosewood]

...Welp asked the whole question in the title.

Anyways, can you?

[Assassin89]

I would say no, as Gentle Repose is not on the list of spells that can be used on objects or another creature.

[Saintheart]

Rather a pity, too, since it'd be a nice touch to add to cathedrals filled with fallen heroes of a particular god -- the faithful keep the body preserved as a constant reminder of their gratitude, or respect, or something...

[Arakune]

Rather a pity, too, since it'd be a nice touch to add to cathedrals filled with fallen heroes of a particular god -- the faithful keep the body preserved as a constant reminder of their gratitude, or respect, or something...

Ring of gentle ripose. Also, a mean of immortality with clone.

[FerhagoRosewood]

Bummer.

It would have worked for a storyline reason for the game I'm DMing.

[Tiki Snakes]

Gentle Repose can be permenancied, actually.

If you are the DM. Or if the DM says so.
(Can't really see it breaking anything. Plus it makes plenty of sense.)

[Dusk Eclipse]

Remember, As a DM you can do

Edit: I hate ninjas

[FerhagoRosewood]

Gentle Repose can be permenancied, actually.

If you are the DM. Or if the DM says so.
(Can't really see it breaking anything. Plus it makes plenty of sense.)

Well I would be the DM...

[sambo.]

It would have worked for a storyline reason for the game I'm DMing.

there you go then.

Permanency CAN be used on Gentle Repose by the plot-hook in YOUR campaign.

you are the DM, you have the power!

[FerhagoRosewood]

there you go then.

Permanency CAN be used on Gentle Repose by the plot-hook in YOUR campaign.

you are the DM, you have the power!

Yeah, I know.

I just like to play it as close to the rules as possible.

[Zeta Kai]

Yeah, I know.

I just like to play it as close to the rules as possible.

You'll get over that, eventually. It passes with time.

[Tiki Snakes]

Yeah, I know.

I just like to play it as close to the rules as possible.

Well, it's not like it's ruled out by name. If anyone asks, let the same ruling count for PC's, too. That way, it's not so much 'by the power of plot' as much as it is just your official interpretation.

[Saintheart]

Yeah, I know.

I just like to play it as close to the rules as possible.

[FerhagoRosewood]

O.O;

Alright then... My next question would be what would the minimum caster level be?

[Ponce]

O.O;

Alright then... My next question would be what would the minimum caster level be?

Probably low, in line with similar-level spells...

Put it this way, if a player asked you to permanency Gentle Repose, would you let him?

[Saintheart]

O.O;

Alright then... My next question would be what would the minimum caster level be?

At the risk of ninja'ing, I would've thought 11th level, since Gentle Repose is a 3rd-level spell, and other 3rd-level spells under Permanency attract a minimum CL 11 requirement...?

[Assassin89]

O.O;

Alright then... My next question would be what would the minimum caster level be?

I would say level 11, as Gentle Repose is a third level spell on the wizard/sorcerer list, and other third level spells follow this rule.

Edit: someone's risk of ninjaing was fulfilled.

[FerhagoRosewood]

Probably low, in line with similar-level spells...

Put it this way, if a player asked you to permanency Gentle Repose, would you let him?

Well considering the lack of revive spells in my game (it's very limited), yeah.

[FinalJustice]

Create a use-activated item of Gentle Repose? Not exactly rules per se, but in the 'guidelines'.

[ericgrau]

You can keep re-casting it so a DM can have his plot point. A long fallen hero is waiting for the time of evil before he comes back to life, kept reposed and guarded by a small group of faithful clerics.

[Ravens_cry]

You can keep re-casting it so a DM can have his plot point. A long fallen hero is waiting for the time of evil before he comes back to life, kept reposed and guarded by a small group of faithful clerics.

Then a small bad slays the guards, steals the body and turns it into an undead under his control. Meanwhile, the Big Bad, who the fallen hero was meant to protect against, arises anew to trouble the world anon.

[FerhagoRosewood]

Then a small bad slays the guards, steals the body and turns it into an undead under his control. Meanwhile, the Big Bad, who the fallen hero was meant to protect against, arises anew to trouble the world anon.

While this sounds like the making of a great plot point, the use of Gentle Repose in my game is more for a body that will be almost forgotten.

[Haven]

Since resurrection is really limited, I don't think there would be a balance problem with changing the spell's duration to permanent in your campaign (aside from possibly putting taxidermists out of business, I guess), or allowing a custom researched version with a permanent duration that's a level higher.

[Mewtarthio]

Isn't there a certain third-party supplement that has a tunic of gentle repose which lasts indefinitely (as well as allowing undead to retain certain... miscellaneous functions)?

[Platinum_Mongoose]

Yeah, I know.

I just like to play it as close to the rules as possible.

Just play to the rule of "Because it's cool!" :D

It really is an awesome visual concept that Saintheart set forward, the hall of fallen heroes. I may steal if I ever run DnD again.

[FerhagoRosewood]

Just play to the rule of "Because it's cool!" :D

It really is an awesome visual concept that Saintheart set forward, the hall of fallen heroes. I may steal if I ever run DnD again.

Yeah I gotta say I like the concept as well.

[Callista]

But then, what would you do if your particular fallen hero had gotten himself fried crispy by dragon breath, or been relieved of his brains by zombies, or died in some other particularly messy manner?

Hmm, come to think of it, is it possible to cast spells like Mending on a corpse? Technically, it IS an object... If so, that'd make the mortician's life a lot easier.

[Tackyhillbillu]

you are the DM, you have the power!

BY THE POWER OF GREYSKULL!

[hamishspence]

there is a Robe of Gentle Repose in the City of the Spider Queen adventure.

I'd say it is within the DM's discretion to allow permanancy to work on spells not on the list- a room of Gentle Repose would make a good equivalent of a freezer or stasis field.

[Zaq]

Forget Gentle Repose. Store it in a vat of Quintessence!