Utilizing the Ninja, 3.5ed

[Edwin]

So, I'm statting up a 1st level goblin ninja for a game.

Problem is, I can't remember any good ways of reliably denying people their dexterity bonus to AC, short of surprise or bluff checks.

Anyone know of a good little trick a 1st level ninja can get his hand on?

And for the record, yes, this is for use of sudden strike.

[KellKheraptis]

So, I'm statting up a 1st level goblin ninja for a game.

Problem is, I can't remember any good ways of reliably denying people their dexterity bonus to AC, short of surprise or bluff checks.

Anyone know of a good little trick a 1st level ninja can get his hand on?

And for the record, yes, this is for use of sudden strike.

Marbles force a Balance check, and anyone without 5 ranks in Balance gets auto-flat footed from it.

[Edwin]

Marbles force a Balance check, and anyone without 5 ranks in Balance gets auto-flat footed from it.

Where can I find marbles, incidentally?

[KellKheraptis]

Where can I find marbles, incidentally?

Pretty sure the PHB, but failing that, Arms & Equipment guide.

[Edwin]

Pretty sure the PHB, but failing that, Arms & Equipment guide.

Looking in the PHB, I see nothing under the equipment section called marbles..

And sadly, I do not own the Arms and Equipment guide.. I think.

[Cieyrin]

Pretty sure the PHB, but failing that, Arms & Equipment guide.

Marbles are A&EG. A bag costs 2 sp and weighs 2 pounds, covering 1 5 foot square. Better than a bag of caltrops, I'd say.

[Zovc]

I'll be damned if a goblin assassinates me using marbles.

[KellKheraptis]

Marbles are A&EG. A bag costs 2 sp and weighs 2 pounds, covering 1 5 foot square. Better than a bag of caltrops, I'd say.

Hey Cie! Finally, I see which name you're under :D I probably could have fully looked that up on here but I figured process of elimination would kick in. Also, cross class ranks (I think it'd be cc for a ninja...) can get you use of a couple eternal wands of grease, which basically does the same thing.

[Edwin]

Hey Cie! Finally, I see which name you're under :D I probably could have fully looked that up on here but I figured process of elimination would kick in. Also, cross class ranks (I think it'd be cc for a ninja...) can get you use of a couple eternal wands of grease, which basically does the same thing.

With 160 gp to buy for? Probably not a good idea.

Marbles are A&EG. A bag costs 2 sp and weighs 2 pounds, covering 1 5 foot square. Better than a bag of caltrops, I'd say.

Awesome, thanks!

I'll be damned if a goblin assassinates me using marbles.

Then watch out for for Garbles, the Marble-assassin!

[CockroachTeaParty]

This is all pretty silly. If you're that concerned, I could just give Ninja normal sneak attack... That might save us some Tom & Jerry antics.

[Sstoopidtallkid]

Dungeonscape. Also great for when you need to spend days hiding in the sewers waiting for the guards to stop chasing you.

Also, you snag a Swift Action Greater Invis at some point in the class. Use it.

[KellKheraptis]

This is all pretty silly. If you're that concerned, I could just give Ninja normal sneak attack... That might save us some Tom & Jerry antics.

Rokugan Ninja for the win...Full BAB and no crappy sudden strike.

[Edwin]

This is all pretty silly. If you're that concerned, I could just give Ninja normal sneak attack... That might save us some Tom & Jerry antics.

Well that would certainly be nice, though I would rather not give you any additional concern. I really want to join.

Full BAB would also be quite awesome, though once again, no stress. I'm fine with class as is, unless you'd rather make it easier for me and change it.

Your call.

[Cieyrin]

Hey Cie! Finally, I see which name you're under :D I probably could have fully looked that up on here but I figured process of elimination would kick in. Also, cross class ranks (I think it'd be cc for a ninja...) can get you use of a couple eternal wands of grease, which basically does the same thing.

Hello as well. Good to see ya!

Then watch out for for Garbles, the Marble-assassin!

Amused, I be. Also, you're welcome.

[CockroachTeaParty]

Where could I find the Rokugan / Oriental Adventures ninja? Is it on Crystalkeep, perchance?

[Darrin]

Anyone know of a good little trick a 1st level ninja can get his hand on?

Eggshell Grenade: Dust, Oriental Adventures, p. 78. 10 GP, so even a 1st level NPC can buy a bunch. Ranged touch attack, target blinded for 1d4 rounds (no Dex bonus), *NO SAVE*. Anyone else in the 5' splash radius gets a Fortitude DC 10 save or they are blinded for 1 round as well.

Hmm... can't find my old Ninja/Blindness post, should have bookmarked it. Here's another post on flat-footed-ness.