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Thread: how to kill Tiamat
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2009-12-06, 02:05 AM (ISO 8601)
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how to kill Tiamat
Okay. My players aren't going to be reaching her for a while. However I want them to face Tiamat but here's the problem. I want them to LIVE. The party is split like this.
Warlock
Wizard
Rogue
Rogue
Fighter
Ranger.
I imagine they have a slightly higher chance of killing her since there are six of them as compared to 4 but I think the lack of a cleric COULD be a problem. Can anybody help? If you need more info regarding the players I can give it to you.Last edited by Mystic Muse; 2009-12-06 at 02:09 AM.
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2009-12-06, 02:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
What type of wizard? I assume you aren't letting them pull any cheese, cuz an army of Solars could do a number on big T.
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2009-12-06, 02:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
No chance. You've got no healer. She deals massive area damage, moves faster than you, and makes saves immediately against most effects. Without at least a secondary healing character, they won't be able to handle her, even with the increased damage output of four Strikers and a Fighter... especially if she decides to focus on the peskiest target first.
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2009-12-06, 02:23 AM (ISO 8601)
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Are any of them going to multiclass into cleric? As long as they have at least a decent Wisdom score, they can cast some nice spells.
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2009-12-06, 02:28 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
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2009-12-06, 02:40 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
I assume 3.x since cleric was mentioned not leader.
See if the Warlock will go Eldritch Disciple (complete mage), he can make you eldritch blasts into healing blasts with just a dip.
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2009-12-06, 02:44 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
Have them fight an Aspect of Tiamat instead and not the real Tiamat? It's only CR 13 but looks fairly resistant to action economy advantage due to its rotating ability to use its breath weapons. What level are they anyway?
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2009-12-06, 02:53 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
I'm betting it is 4ed. Kyuubi just made a thread about the various high level gods and demons in 4ed. Also I believe (s)he plays 4ed almost exclusively.
Originally Posted by Alabenson
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2009-12-06, 02:57 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
Because healing is the optimal thing to be doing.
Wizard: Orb Spells + Metamagic (It'll let him bypass SR)
Fighter: Should dip Lion Totem Barb if he can and enhance PA in any way he can. Valorous weapon enhancement and Frenzied Berserker in conjunction with Shock Trooper can do wonders.
Rogues: Abuse UMD or dip Factotum, take able Learner, and start adding Iaijutsu damage on top of that SA damage
Ranger: Darkstalker maybe...? Or Paladin of the Arcane Order? Not really experienced with Rangers.
Warlock: Three levels are Hellfire Warlock, pick up Strongheart Vest Soulmeld, and learn the Eldritch Glaive Invocation.
Wizard or Warlock: Dipping Mindbender and then taking Mindsight will make for easy detecting methods which are always nice.
Everybody: Some manner of flying. It makes life good. Goku could fly. Goku could also kill Tiamat. Hence, your players should fly too.Last edited by Wings of Peace; 2009-12-06 at 03:03 AM.
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2009-12-06, 03:10 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
Teleport a sword into its heart.
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2009-12-06, 03:12 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 03:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
Ask her to marry you.
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2009-12-06, 03:21 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 05:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
Which head, or all of them?
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2009-12-06, 07:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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If the fight happens outside of Tiamat's plane, gate Bahamut in.
It can be done by level 17, with a few "commune" done in advance and the right amount of persuasion.
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I said fight her, not defeat her : that the job of the PCs. The creature is just here to distract Tiamat long enough for the players to put a plan in motion...or run away.
I advise a Paragon Half-Celestial Great Wyrm Gold Dragon, just for the awesome cinematic that will follow.
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2009-12-06, 07:41 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by taltamir; 2009-12-06 at 07:42 AM.
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2009-12-06, 07:43 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 08:00 AM (ISO 8601)
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thanks for the correction... speaking of... I never liked the whole "slay a dragon" I'd much rather lay the dragon... (or vampire, or... actually a suprisingly large list of "monsters"; oh god... I sound like a twilight fan! *commits harakiri*)
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Onan the librarian barbarian disagrees, tiamat has some fine child bearing hips, will give strong children!Last edited by taltamir; 2009-12-06 at 08:03 AM.
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the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-12-06, 08:13 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by Gamerlord; 2009-12-06 at 08:14 AM.
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2009-12-06, 08:16 AM (ISO 8601)
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Last edited by taltamir; 2009-12-06 at 08:16 AM.
I do not have a superman complex; for I am God, not Superman!
the glass is always 100% full. Approximately 50% of its volume is full of dihydrogen monoxide and some dissolved solutes, and approx 50% a mixture of gasses known as "air" which contains roughly (by volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and trace amounts of other gases.
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2009-12-06, 08:18 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 08:24 AM (ISO 8601)
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Re: how to kill Tiamat
I think you will be needing an Army equiped with Dragonlances and Huma Dragonbane.
For those not getting it: Tiamat or 'Takhisis, the Dragonqueen' is the Evil Goddess of the Dragonlance series...
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2009-12-06, 08:37 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 08:42 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 08:45 AM (ISO 8601)
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If you touch the smexy dragon godess i swear i Concentrated Infinity Blast you to the Far Realms and back.
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2009-12-06, 09:22 AM (ISO 8601)
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Credit for my various avatars goes to Dashwood,Cealocanth,Kwarkpudding,Randomizer,kpengu in,Alarra,Bisected8,zimmerwald1915, and Thanqol.
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2009-12-06, 09:30 AM (ISO 8601)
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Have it your way *Hits Gamerkid with a beam of pure power strong enough to destroy the universe a million times over*
And that my friend, is an Infinity Blast.
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2009-12-06, 09:31 AM (ISO 8601)
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I'm Pun-pun, you just tickled me.
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2009-12-06, 09:32 AM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-06, 09:35 AM (ISO 8601)
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*Shrugs and hits Gamerkid with the upgraded version*
*The universe and all planes attached to it along with all alternate timelines explode due to being unable to cope with the full power of a fully charged Infinity Blast*
I think i just blew up all of existence...
I think the Overdeities are a bit pissed at us now....Last edited by Closak; 2009-12-06 at 09:36 AM.