Looking for a race with ancestry in the lower planes that dose not have a hit to Cha

[Giegue]

The title says it all. I am looking for a race that has ancestry in the lower planes that dose not take a hit to charisma and has no LA, so anything tiefling related is out. The reason is because I want to play with the conduit of the lower planes as a PC but since the class is charisma reliant, do not want to take a hit to charisma. So, do any of you know a race that can have ancestry in the lower planes that dose not take a hit to charisma and dose not have LA?

If no such race exists, could one give me ideas on how to homebrew it?

[Darrin]

The title says it all. I am looking for a race that has ancestry in the lower planes that dose not take a hit to charisma and has no LA, so anything tiefling related is out. The reason is because I want to play with the conduit of the lower planes as a PC but since the class is charisma reliant, do not want to take a hit to charisma. So, do any of you know a race that can have ancestry in the lower planes that dose not take a hit to charisma and dose not have LA?

Hellbred (Spirit Aspect), Fiendish Codex II. +2 Cha, -2 Con. And if the racial abilities annoy you (like the no resurrection thing), Dragonborn of Bahumat can fix you up for only 100 GP. No more free Devil's Favor, though.

Star Elf is extraplanar... not explicitly infernal, but could be fluffed (maybe mom was a little too adventurous?).

Spellscale also gets a Cha bonus... maybe infernal dragon ancestry?

You can also add +2 Cha/-2 Wis to any race with the Magic-Blooded template (Dragon #306, check the 3.0 templates on Crystalkeep for details). You can even add these onto a race with an existing Cha bonus for +4 Cha at 1st level, zero LA.

[Pharaoh's Fist]

If no such race exists, could one give me ideas on how to homebrew it?

Take the stats for Aasimar or lesser Aasimar and change the abilities and energy resistances for a more fiendish flavor.

[Oslecamo]

Take the stats for Aasimar or lesser Aasimar and change the abilities and energy resistances for a more fiendish flavor.

Even easier, play human and reflavor it! All the power, zero drawbacks!

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Hellbred+magic blooded is good.

[Biffoniacus_Furiou]

Magic-Blooded (page 15) is +0 LA and gives +2 Cha, and you can flavor the source of their powers however you want.

[Kaiyanwang]

Magic-Blooded (page 15) is +0 LA and gives +2 Cha, and you can flavor the source of their powers however you want.

So a magic blooded star elf is +4 cha? Nice!

[Prime32]

There are "lesser" versions of the planetouched races which are LA +0 but lose the Outsider type.

In Tome, aasimar are descended from beautiful outsiders rather than good ones.

You could also take some Fiendish Heritage feats, a Fiendish Bloodline, or warlock levels. Or some combination of the three.

So a magic blooded star elf is +4 cha? Nice!

IIRC it's also -2 Wis.

[Kaiyanwang]

IIRC it's also -2 Wis.

You are right - I explained badly. I was referring to the mere bonus. +4 is huge, only orcs, wild elves and few others can get a +4 on a stat with LA +0.

And -2 wis +4 cha makes great bards

[Eldan]

I have several homebrew planetouched races linked in my signature. The Stormborn is Pandemonium-derived and has a charisma bonus.

[Pharaoh's Fist]

Even easier, play human and reflavor it! All the power, zero drawbacks!

The part where the human doesn't get +cha kills your idea.

[Grumman]

The part where the human doesn't get +cha kills your idea.

He wasn't asking for +Charisma specifically, he was asking for something that didn't have -Charisma.

[Pharaoh's Fist]

In which case Oscalemo actually made a reasonable suggestion.

[Thurbane]

In the core, Half-fiend template gets +2 to CHA (for a hefty +4 LA), or Fiendish template with no hit to CHA (+2 LA and really not much to show for it).

[Sstoopidtallkid]

There's an evil Human subrace outlined in BoVD. I remember it being weaker than a normal human, but it lets you avoid needing to reflavor anything.