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    My brain is filled with things which should probably not be there. One of these things is a number of chemicals which are relatively nasty, although they are far from the nastiest out there. However, I personally like them, and so I now ask the playground: what game effects would these things have?
    • Poly-chlorinated biphenyls
    • Putrescine


    These are just the ones off the top of my head. So, ideas?
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    Hydroflouric acid: Deals 1d10 constitution drain each round for 3 rounds, if used on creatures immune to constitution drain. this completely removes 2d10 hit dice instead, if used on objects, it deals 50 damage per round, add +1 to the die number for damage or +10 for damage to objects, and the duration for each additional fluid ounce. This affects creatures immune to acid, but it's damage is halved against such creatures. Hydroflouric acid is some nasty stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    Hydroflouric acid: Deals 1d10 constitution drain each round for 3 rounds, if used on corporeal undead or flesh golems, this completely removes 2d10 hit dice instead, add +1 to the die number for damage and the duration for each additional fluid ounce. Hydroflouric acid is some nasty stuff.
    Yes but make it clear that throwing a bunch of milk on em will limit the effects. HF leaches calcium from your body which what kills ya...

    U want some nasty stuff, throw benzene on em. Yeah it takes a while to kill em but boy howdy thats some nasty cancer

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    Sulfuric acid: You do NOT want to know what it does to water- and carbon-based objects.

    Okay, I'll tell you. Pour sulfuric acid on sugar. C6H12O6, you know?

    The second the sulfuric acid hits the sugar, the sugar turns into a foul brown liquid, evaporates, and all that's left is what appears to be extremely porous carbon.

    Now imagine what it would do to human flesh.

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    I made a hydroflouric acid Elemental once. It mopped the floor with most any creature I put it up against with a similar CR rating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Sulfuric acid: You do NOT want to know what it does to water- and carbon-based objects.

    Okay, I'll tell you. Pour sulfuric acid on sugar. C6H12O6, you know?

    The second the sulfuric acid hits the sugar, the sugar turns into a foul brown liquid, evaporates, and all that's left is what appears to be extremely porous carbon.

    Now imagine what it would do to human flesh.
    Hydroflouric acid is considered to be more dangerous than Sulfuric Acid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    I made a hydroflouric acid Elemental once. It mopped the floor with most any creature I put it up against with a similar CR rating.
    A water elemental would just dilute him to nothing....

    Which made me think just now:

    Decanter of Endless HF anyone?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    Hydroflouric acid: Deals 1d10 constitution drain each round for 3 rounds, if used on creatures immune to constitution drain. this completely removes 2d10 hit dice instead, if used on objects, it deals 50 damage per round, add +1 to the die number for damage or +10 for damage to objects, and the duration for each additional fluid ounce. This affects creatures immune to acid, but it's damage is halved against such creatures. Hydroflouric acid is some nasty stuff.
    But not that nasty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    I made a hydroflouric acid Elemental once. It mopped the floor with most any creature I put it up against with a similar CR rating.
    That was cruel. It's a compound, not an element. OTOH, a Francium/Ununheptium elemental would be worse by far.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    Hydroflouric acid is considered to be more dangerous than Sulfuric Acid.
    Yeah, but Sulfuric Acid might be a bit easier to get.

    And I'll admit, I've never seen Hydroflouric acid in action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_person View Post
    That was cruel. It's a compound, not an element. OTOH, a Francium/Ununheptium elemental would be worse by far.
    Francium has a half-life in the millisecond range IIRC. So no, no it wouldnt lol. Plutonium on the other hand is almost as bad with a much longer halflife

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Yeah, but Sulfuric Acid might be a bit easier to get.

    And I'll admit, I've never seen Hydroflouric acid in action.
    It is truly nasty stuff. 5 mL is fatal to a human body. No that is not a misprint 5 MILLILITERS

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    Quote Originally Posted by Random_person View Post
    That was cruel. It's a compound, not an element. OTOH, a Francium/Ununheptium elemental would be worse by far.
    Ununheptium would degrade to nothingness within a round or two, even if you somehow gathered up enough of it to make a 48,000 pound monster. But it would turn any area it was in so radioactive that no form of life would be able to inhabit it for years.

    Also, Compoundal would sound, stupid...To say the least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteLock View Post
    Francium has a half-life in the millisecond range IIRC. So no, no it wouldnt lol. Plutonium on the other hand is almost as bad with a much longer halflife
    They'd go extinct pretty quick with everyone killin' 'em to make katanas out of.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteLock View Post
    It is truly nasty stuff. 5 mL is fatal to a human body. No that is not a misprint 5 MILLILITERS
    What exactly does it do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteLock View Post
    Francium has a half-life in the millisecond range IIRC. So no, no it wouldnt lol. Plutonium on the other hand is almost as bad with a much longer halflife
    You may be thinking of Un(whatever)ium. Francium is 23 minutes, and is also an alkali metal, meaning that combined with water you get widespread explosion followed by radiation across that same area.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    What exactly does it do?
    Basically, it leaches the calcium right out of your body. This includes your bones and blood, and your Ca+ ion concentration is crucial to your blood flow. Not to mention your bones basically dissolving

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoffeeIncluded View Post
    Yeah, but Sulfuric Acid might be a bit easier to get.

    And I'll admit, I've never seen Hydroflouric acid in action.
    It passes through your skin and dissolves your skeleton with incredible speed, in large enough quantities, it can completely remove your skeleton and anything else with calcium in it, letting everyone watch your body collapse into a heap of various tissues.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteLock View Post
    Basically, it leaches the calcium right out of your body. This includes your bones and blood, and your Ca+ ion concentration is crucial to your blood flow. Not to mention your bones basically dissolving
    Nasty. Very nasty. *schemes*
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    Hydrochloric Acid: Gas
    If you breathe this chemical for extended period of time (like trapped in a room)
    Less than 30 seconds and more: 3d10 acid damage
    More than 30 seconds and more: 3d10 con mod damage
    More than 60 seconds: Death

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    Phosgene: Breath it and die.

    Chlorine Trifluoride: Be exposed to it and melt and/or catch fire.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Volkov View Post
    Also, Compoundal would sound, stupid...To say the least.
    Moleculars?

    Although I wouldn't want to try to make any ionic compounds... "formula unitals" sounds worse and "compoundals".
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    Wow. We are evil evil people. Does anyone else have things like this that are not almost instantly fatal?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SemiteLock View Post
    It is truly nasty stuff. 5 mL is fatal to a human body. No that is not a misprint 5 MILLILITERS
    That's actually quite a bit. The really, really nasty poisons kill you with only a few microliters.

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    Of course, nothing is worse than a P-239 Elemental. Hit it too hard and you, the city, and everything in a large radius will become a radioactive black smear on the ground. Its one enemy you cannot afford to kill.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Evard View Post
    Hydrochloric Acid: Gas
    If you breathe this chemical for extended period of time (like trapped in a room)
    Less than 30 seconds and more: 3d10 acid damage
    More than 30 seconds and more: 3d10 con mod damage
    More than 60 seconds: Death
    Yes, but at what concentration? Last year in chem class we ended up breathing HCl fumes for the entire 40-minute period by mistake. My throat was burning me but I was fine in about half an hour.

    And yeesh with the HF. Lemme think of fluff for sulfuric acid. Not great at homebrew though.
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    Cesium is scary. Really though, you want a scary chemical? Nicotine. That stuff makes cyanide look pathetic. The air around it is dangerous. It is the single most dangerous thing in cigarette smoke, and that is extremely diluted. Straight nicotine is one of the nastiest compounds around.
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    I vote that WOTC should make the elemental plane of Plutonium 239. Just one, one overapplication of force and everyone, everywhere dies. It'd be hilarious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knaight View Post
    Cesium is scary. Really though, you want a scary chemical? Nicotine. That stuff makes cyanide look pathetic. The air around it is dangerous. It is the single most dangerous thing in cigarette smoke, and that is extremely diluted. Straight nicotine is one of the nastiest compounds around.
    You want frightening, it's dihydrogen monoxide! '

    Dihydrogen monoxide:

    * is called "hydroxyl acid", the substance is the major component of acid rain.
    * contributes to the "greenhouse effect".
    * may cause severe burns.
    * is fatal if inhaled.
    * contributes to the erosion of our natural landscape.
    * accelerates corrosion and rusting of many metals.
    * may cause electrical failures and decreased effectiveness of automobile brakes.
    * has been found in excised tumors of terminal cancer patients.

    Despite the danger, dihydrogen monoxide is often used:

    * as an industrial solvent and coolant.
    * in nuclear power plants.
    * in the production of Styrofoam.
    * as a fire retardant.
    * in many forms of cruel animal research.
    * in the distribution of pesticides. Even after washing, produce remains contaminated by this chemical.
    * as an additive in certain "junk-foods" and other food products.

    :P
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    I dunno the exact data calculations, but it would do a lot of damage to anything water-based. So basically Water Elementals are screwed around it. Maybe some minor heat damage as well, since it's so exothermic...
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