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    Default [4e] What's in a DND Insider Update?

    I'm considering getting a DND Insider subscription and I was wondering what's included each month as far as the books go? I'm particularly interested to know if getting the March subscription will get me PHB3, which comes out that month or if I will have to wait until April to get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by falconflicker View Post
    I'm considering getting a DND Insider subscription and I was wondering what's included each month as far as the books go? I'm particularly interested to know if getting the March subscription will get me PHB3, which comes out that month or if I will have to wait until April to get it?

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    The Character Builder and Compendium are usually one month behind.

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    i usualy buy a months sub every few months just to update the chr builder and that alone is worth the money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by falconflicker View Post
    I'm considering getting a DND Insider subscription and I was wondering what's included each month as far as the books go?
    Generally speaking, the updates include all of the "crunch" from the previous months' releases.

    DDI includes very little fluff unless it directly relates to a class. For example, you miss out on all the groovy stuff from The Plane Below.

    It also does not include the general rules. For example, you get access to all the summoning powers in the character builder, but not the actual rules for summoning. For that you need to buy the base book.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Colmarr View Post
    It also does not include the general rules. For example, you get access to all the summoning powers in the character builder, but not the actual rules for summoning. For that you need to buy the base book.
    Except that those rules are also in one of the Dragon magazines, which DDI subscribers also get access to.

    Really, DDI lets me spend less cash on mechanics-heavy splats and more on books like Draconomicon, DMG2, and Manual of the Planes. Sure, I get the crunch half a month to a month late, but it's better than waiting 'til I've got the cash to buy the book.

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    Default Re: [4e] What's in a DND Insider Update?

    Quote Originally Posted by falconflicker View Post
    I'm considering getting a DND Insider subscription and I was wondering what's included each month as far as the books go? I'm particularly interested to know if getting the March subscription will get me PHB3, which comes out that month or if I will have to wait until April to get it?

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    You don't get any "books", per se. You do get all the Dragon and Dungeon magazines. Also, the character builder will have all the character options in it, so if the main thing you want are the new races, classes, feats, powers, magical items, etc, then the subscription is wonderful. If you are more interested in learning about why White Dragons prefer to live on a snowy mountain, then you would do best to purchase the Draconomicon instead. There's also the compendium which is a very valuable resource. Are you wondering exactly when and how many immediate reactions you can take in a turn? Look up "immediate reaction" and it'll give you the rules for it right there. It's quicker than looking it up in the books, and it is updated to include rules errata.

    The DDI subscription comes with other things as well, though I have never used anything else. I can't give DDI subscriptions enough credit. The compendium + char builder are just marvelous. If you are a serious 4e player, they are invaluable tools.

    If the PHB3 is released in March, it will be in the char builder and compendium in April.

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    Default Re: [4e] What's in a DND Insider Update?

    Wait, so a one month subscription gets you compendium & character builder?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moff Chumley View Post
    Wait, so a one month subscription gets you compendium & character builder?
    It would get you the compendium for one month (since that's an online resource). It also gets you all the updates for the character builder up to that point.

    If you were to get a one-month DDI access right now, you would have the compendium for a month. You would also get the character builder with all resources/books up until the end of November. That stays with you permanently, as that is a download. However, it won't be updated when the PHB3 comes out, for instance, since you don't have a subscription to continue the downloads.

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    Makes sense. Cool, I didn't know that!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moff Chumley View Post
    Makes sense. Cool, I didn't know that!
    It's quite the good deal honestly. I've made much worse purchases.

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    Speaking of all this.... when is Dragon 380 going into the Builder? Is it already? Cause I want to see some Abyssal Genasi options in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mando Knight View Post
    Except that those rules are also in one of the Dragon magazines, which DDI subscribers also get access to.
    I stand corrected on that specific example but I think my general point still stands

    I'm a big fan of DDI, so I wasn't trying to bash it - simply give a warts-and-all description of what bang you get for your buck.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kaun View Post
    i usualy buy a months sub every few months just to update the chr builder and that alone is worth the money.
    QFT.

    I myself purchase a month every quarter or every six months (sometimes more frequently if there's something I just HAVE to have) and use that opportunity to download all the Dungeons and Dragons I've missed in the meantime.

    That's IMO the best bang-for-buck RPG deal around.
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    Pretty much what I'm doing now too... now, if they came out with all those promised features that might be another story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Asbestos View Post
    Speaking of all this.... when is Dragon 380 going into the Builder? Is it already? Cause I want to see some Abyssal Genasi options in there.
    They're there now. For, like, the past couple days.
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    Honestly, DDI is one of the best uses of money I've spent for the d&d game that I play. The Character Builder alone was worth the money, and the compendium, monster builder and magazines is also great.

    In addition, you're allowed to have up to 5 updates a month, so this has allowed me to have it on my desktop, my laptop, and also on the laptop of the player whose house we play at; so that way we can print out character sheets there if need be.

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    Default Re: [4e] What's in a DND Insider Update?

    and with those 5 downloads you can download it onto friends pcs so the whole group have the cb for one payment per month
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