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    Default PGtF Magical Artisian

    The feat says:

    Choose one Item Creation feat that you posses. When you make an item with that feat, you pay only 75% of the normal cost to creation the item.

    Is this both XP and Gold, or just Gold, or just XP?

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Quote Originally Posted by Matamane View Post
    The feat says:

    Choose one Item Creation feat that you posses. When you make an item with that feat, you pay only 75% of the normal cost to creation the item.

    Is this both XP and Gold, or just Gold, or just XP?
    Both Gold and XP are costs associated with the feat, so it should apply to both.

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Is it because XP cost is linked to gold cost?

    If so, how does it interact with the other Artisian Feats?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Matamane View Post
    Is it because XP cost is linked to gold cost?

    If so, how does it interact with the other Artisian Feats?

    Quote Originally Posted by http://www.d20srd.org/srd/magicItems/creatingMagicItems.htm
    Magic supplies for items are always half of the base price in gp and 1/25 of the base price in XP. For many items, the market price equals the base price.
    The XP Cost is linked to the Base Price, as is the Gold Cost. They are, however, both costs.

    The other artisan Feats: Legendary Artisan reduces the Base Cost for the purposes of XP. Extraordinary does the same for Gold. So this reduction happens on a different step, and thus they stack, giving results of:

    Gold: X (Base cost) * 0.75 (Extraordinary Artisan) * 1/2 (Get Gold cost) * 0.75 (Magical Artisan) = 0.28125X
    XP: X (Base cost) * 0.75 (Legendary Artisan) * 1/25 (Get XP Cost) * 0.75 (Magical Artisan) = 0.0225X

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Any ideas on further reducing costs for item creation?

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Quote Originally Posted by Matamane View Post
    Any ideas on further reducing costs for item creation?
    Play an Artificer and use Craft Reserve. Use an Item familiar. I'm sure there are more ways.

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Quote Originally Posted by Gralamin View Post
    Play an Artificer and use Craft Reserve. Use an Item familiar. I'm sure there are more ways.
    How does using an item familiar potentially reduce crafting costs?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Matamane View Post
    If so, how does it interact with the other Artisian Feats?
    The DM points out they are Eberron and Magical Artisian is FR and they don't.

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    Default Re: PGtF Magical Artisian

    Quote Originally Posted by Coidzor View Post
    How does using an item familiar potentially reduce crafting costs?
    It doesn't. It increases your available XP.
    Of course, by the time I finish this post, it will already be obsolete. C'est la vie.

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    ^: Ahh... And I think it'd make hitting those crafting DCs even more trivial for an artificer...
    Quote Originally Posted by deuxhero View Post
    The DM points out they are Eberron and Magical Artisian is FR and they don't.
    Only if you're playing strictly to one of those two settings and don't allow material released with those settings, even when it's not something like dragonmarks which are built into the setting.
    Last edited by Coidzor; 2009-12-19 at 03:18 PM.
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