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2009-12-19, 08:19 PM (ISO 8601)
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Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
So, I wanted to play something completely unconventional. My main character, the Transmuter 3/Master Specialist 4/Loremaster 1 died at the hands of a huge storm elemental... Blah.
But anyway, I want to have fun with this character before it dies. So, I have resolved to make a... Half Dragon Pixie!! Why? Because my party told me to make something different then my usual optimized wizard build.
So, I thanks to Level adjustment, I have one class level to work with. Now, this might be for fun, but I still like some optimization. So what can I do to make this character work, in any sort of regard? Is it hopeless? Please give me some feedback.
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2009-12-19, 08:22 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
With just one HD, and if your optimized wizard bited the bullet, your half fairy dragon will die quickly.
You will just have too few HP. And any effect based on HD will instagib you.
Seriously reconsider taking just one template.
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2009-12-19, 08:23 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Barbarian (CChamp Spirit Lion Totem variant). It will give you HP that you desperately need, and Pounce for your natural weapon carnage. Then, focus on dive-charging stuff. You'll suck horribly, of course, but what did you expect? Alternately, go Rogue after the Barbarian, and you'll get SA damage on all your attacks. Still suck, though.
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2009-12-19, 08:26 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
I suggest just taking the pixie, being a warlock and pretending that you're secretly a lantern archon for S&G.
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2009-12-19, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
I would recommend not using Half-Dragon. It doesn't actually have Level Adjustment rules and is difficult for the DM to adjucate encounters that won't kill you instantly or encounters that are too easy. There's just nothing in the middle.
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2009-12-19, 08:27 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
I expected to suck. That is the point. XP
I was just curious how good of a piece of crap I could make with this piece of crap.
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2009-12-19, 08:28 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:29 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Actually here's a great solution.
Commoner 1.
Take chicken-infested flaw.
Proceed to make chickens larger than you appear out of nowhere (you're greater invis'd).
???
Profit.
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2009-12-19, 08:33 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Id go with the barbarian or warlock ideas.
The idea of a half dragon pixie barbarian is just awesome. Effective...not so much, no, but awesome.
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2009-12-19, 08:34 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Okay. For this to work, you're going to have to play against most normal optimization rules. Casters are flat out. between your LA and racial HD, you would be...what?...7 caster levels behind? I don't remember honestly, I'm away from my books. Play to your strengths. You're always invisible and can fly.
Anyway. Here's what you do: Take a level of either Savant (Dragon Compendium) or Factotum (the only PC classes I know of that grant all skills as class skills). Max out Iajutsu Focus. Invest your WBL into a +1 Brilliant Energy Gnome Quickrazor (If you can afford it that is...again, away from books). You are now making flat-footed touch attacks that all deal +xd6 Iajutsu Focus damage. You will never go visible, so you always have a 50% miss chance. Remember that the 5ft step is your friend...especially when you 5ft step UP. (I think that pixies can hover, I don't remember perfectly though.)
Next Step: Get as many class levels that give sneak attack/sudden strike as possible. Multiclass shamelessly.
You're never going to have many hit points, so the first time those d% roll against you, you will explode. So remember to enjoy this character while you can.
That's all I got.
~R~
Edit: Holy crap...7 posts between starting and finishing this. I knew I took awhile, but that's a bit ridiculous.Last edited by Raiki; 2009-12-19 at 08:36 PM.
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2009-12-19, 08:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:35 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Maybe I'll make him a bard, just to round out the utter uselessness. XD
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2009-12-19, 08:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:37 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:38 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:39 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:41 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 08:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
One thing I should mention.. Do not give too many recommendations that rely on "Get your X level up" because I do not see him surviving very long. XD I just want to have some fun for the next encounter or two.
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2009-12-19, 08:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
If anyone has any other ideas, or think they can do better, speak up.
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2009-12-19, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Alright, so how about this... If I took out half dragon, and just used a pixie (LA 4), and had 4 class levels to work with.. What could I do to be powerful?
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2009-12-19, 08:57 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Focus a lot on Use Magic Device. Use most of your WBL to buy scrolls, wands, etc. Use them and pretend to be a full caster. I reckon you can get a +15 modifier, +18 or higher if using Unearthed Arcana.
Last edited by Foryn Gilnith; 2009-12-19 at 08:58 PM.
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2009-12-19, 09:01 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 09:42 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
With one HD, I feel like Vigor is almost a necessity... but I can't see a way to get your manifester level high enough for it to actually matter. What kind of WBL do you have? I think that your items will be the only things keeping you, you know, alive. Invisibility and size only go so far, and won't really protect against area effects. (Fireball may be hilariously unoptimized, but when you have only a scant handful of HP, it makes a difference.)
In terms of what you actually DO... yeah, I think that your options are minion mastery (summons, undead, or whatever) or party buffing (bard, marshal, etc. Draconic Aura, from Dragon Magic, would be nice, but I'm pretty sure your HD determines the effect).In the Beginning Was the Word, and the Word Was Suck: A Guide to Truenamers
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2009-12-19, 09:43 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 09:47 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
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2009-12-19, 09:51 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
Way back before I ever got on the internet, my cousin wanted to DM an underdark campaign. So, we were all supposed to have LA races. I wanted to play a half-pyroclastic dragon/drow monk. It sounded like a great idea.
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2009-12-19, 10:00 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 10:04 PM (ISO 8601)
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2009-12-19, 10:20 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
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2009-12-19, 10:36 PM (ISO 8601)
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Re: Impossible task... Min/Max this. D&D 3.5
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Being Bane: A Guide to Barbarians Cracking Small Men - Ever Been Angry?! Then this is for you!
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