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    Default 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Let's get down to business, I somewhat new, and I feel weak compared to my part(ies)(I play at a hobby shop, so while we usually have regulars, we are split up), I've never like conventional stuff, I'd be playing the fighter who multiclassed as a cleric(cleric fighter), or playing a idiotic kobold who always managed to (nearly for awhile) kill myself in funniest manners due to stupidity. So a dwarven infernal warlock was sure to work for my odd character ideas. The fact I finally want to start optimizing him would help, but I am no good at optimizing.

    Here's what I got so far.

    ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
    Darth Travok, level 3
    Dwarf, Warlock
    Build: Scourge Warlock
    Eldritch Blast: Eldritch Blast Constitution
    Eldritch Pact: Infernal Pact

    FINAL ABILITY SCORES
    Str 15, Con 19, Dex 10, Int 13, Wis 12, Cha 8.

    STARTING ABILITY SCORES
    Str 15, Con 17, Dex 10, Int 13, Wis 10, Cha 8.


    AC: 18 Fort: 15 Reflex: 13 Will: 13
    HP: 41 Surges: 10 Surge Value: 10

    TRAINED SKILLS
    Arcana +7, Insight +7, Bluff +7, History +7

    UNTRAINED SKILLS
    Acrobatics +1, Diplomacy, Dungeoneering +4, Endurance +7, Heal +2, Intimidate, Nature +2, Perception +2, Religion +2, Stealth +1, Streetwise, Thievery +1, Athletics +3

    FEATS
    Level 1: Armor Proficiency (Chainmail)
    Level 2: Armor Proficiency (Scale)

    POWERS
    Warlock encounter 1: Vampiric Embrace
    Warlock daily 1: Flames of Phlegethos
    Warlock utility 2: Ethereal Stride
    Warlock encounter 3: Fiery Bolt

    ITEMS
    Spellbook, Scale Armor, Magic Rod +1, Warhammer
    RITUALS
    Comprehend Language
    ====== Created Using Wizards of the Coast D&DI Character Builder ======
    I have Phb 1&2, martial powers, and the adventure's vault.
    I'm going to level him up to 5 manually, I just use the Character creator as a something to help me start the initial design.
    For my level 4 feat, I'm split between getting plate armor or taking reaper's touch, because what is the point in having an up and close warlock without being able to using my signature ability in melee range?

    Any advice?
    Last edited by Touchy; 2010-01-01 at 03:37 PM.

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Instead of Reaper's Touch, you might consider taking Eldritch Strike instead of Blast at 1st level, to give you melee capabilities and save up a feat.
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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by BobTheDog View Post
    Instead of Reaper's Touch, you might consider taking Eldritch Strike instead of Blast at 1st level, to give you melee capabilities and save up a feat.
    Which book is that in, or is that from dragon magazine? If it's dragon, then I can't use it. The only reason I put reaper's touch up is because I have the trial, so I can only see things from dragon that existed in the beta.
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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Eldritch Strike is a power from the Player's Handbook Heroes book, and the December Update allowed all Warlocks to start with that power instead of Eldritch Blast if they so wish. Meanwhile, Reaper's Touch has been errata'd in the Dragon Magazine Annual so that it can only be taken by Shadar-Kai, so you're out of luck there. Eldritch Blast is essentially a melee basic attack that uses your Constitution (or Charisma) as the attack stat, and it slides an enemy 1 square on a hit. So it would deal 1[W]+Con mod and slide your target 1 square if you hit, and you can apply Curse damage on a hit. It's useful for Warlocks who like to be in melee.
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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Pramxnim View Post
    Eldritch Strike is a power from the Player's Handbook Heroes book, and the December Update allowed all Warlocks to start with that power instead of Eldritch Blast if they so wish. Meanwhile, Reaper's Touch has been errata'd in the Dragon Magazine Annual so that it can only be taken by Shadar-Kai, so you're out of luck there. Eldritch Blast is essentially a melee basic attack that uses your Constitution (or Charisma) as the attack stat, and it slides an enemy 1 square on a hit. So it would deal 1[W]+Con mod and slide your target 1 square if you hit, and you can apply Curse damage on a hit. It's useful for Warlocks who like to be in melee.
    Thanks, could you get me a copy of the PDF, I'll probably have to show it to them for them to believe me. Well atleast I can use my armor, or do I need a pactblade for this?
    Last edited by Touchy; 2010-01-01 at 04:08 PM.

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=dnd/mi/20090408a

    There's a link to a page with the power available on the Wizards website. Posting a pdf would be illegal, but you can still show your friends where you got the power from. For this power at least, you don't need a Pact Blade, since it's a Weapon power, not an Implement power. You do need your Implement for other Warlock powers, and you want to be proficient with the weapon you're using. Since you're a Dwarf, your best bet would be the Warhammer (and use a Rod or something for your other Warlock powers).
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    Not sure how I'm going to explain it exactly. I didn't think it came with the miniatures. Some guy usually brings a laptop, so I could give him a link for proof. Any other sources besides that for a link to this power? I also I got a war hammer, so that is no big deal.

    Anything else I should consider?

    Edit: Found a PDF I can use the explain this.
    http://www.wizards.com/dnd/files/UpdateNov2009.pdf
    Page 58.
    Last edited by Touchy; 2010-01-01 at 05:26 PM.

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    I don't know how much creativity with magic items your group allows, but could you make/get a warhammer with a magic rod as the haft? That way you wouldn't have to switch between a weapon and an implement.
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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordgleam View Post
    I don't know how much creativity with magic items your group allows, but could you make/get a warhammer with a magic rod as the haft? That way you wouldn't have to switch between a weapon and an implement.
    Warhammers can be wielded with-one hand. It isn't much of a problem. My wand is in my other hand, so nothing is conflicting. Also it varies between the player's, since DMing is more of whoever feels like it and if we need more than one or not.

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    I suppose there's nothing in the rules that gives penalties for having an implement in your off-hand, now that I think about it.
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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    There's also the Pact Hammer (lvl 2+ magic weapon) in Adventurer's Vault, which is a hammer that functions as an implement (but only for dwarves).

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Archbear View Post
    There's also the Pact Hammer (lvl 2+ magic weapon) in Adventurer's Vault, which is a hammer that functions as an implement (but only for dwarves).
    I'll check that out later, I already spent for a magic wand though. I might get that when I get some money.

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    Default Re: 4e: Help building my Dwarven Plate Warlock

    Quote Originally Posted by Swordgleam View Post
    I suppose there's nothing in the rules that gives penalties for having an implement in your off-hand, now that I think about it.
    Yeah, that would kind of suck for bards. Like, a lot.
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