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    GnomeWizardGuy

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    Default BFS , big ... sword character

    idea for a joke character

    play a Goliath : powerful build makes you able to wield weapons 1 category larger than you should be

    add the monkey grip feat to wield and even bigger Greatsword

    Medium is 2d6, large 3d6, huge 4d6

    now I'm not sure how big a huge Greatsword is , but wouldn't it be normal to treat it as a reach weapon?

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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Don't think Monkey grip works that way.

    That said, if you wanted a huge sized two handed sword, and get some strong arms bracers and a huge bastard sword (it's one handed) or better yet a huge sunblade (expedition to castle ravenloft 3000 gold, no frills +1 version). Not sure if they stack though.

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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    It would be normal to treat it as a normal weapon. It would be a houserule to treat it as a reach weapon.

    Monkey grip is a trap, and is a terrible feat. Power Attack serves the same function, but much more effectively.

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    For a 2 handed weapon like a greatsword, it's the same size as it's category.

    Don't forget to add half ogre template and use psionic Expansion for another 3 size categories.
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    GnomeWizardGuy

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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    no , monkey Grip is great for hilarious (and pointless) characters that must be overcompensating for something

    like a ranger dualwielding a greatsword and a halberd with OTWF

    so I could go for Gargantuan sword instead? good to know
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Monkey grip does not work that way. Greatswords and halberds are still two handed weapons.
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Questionable rules use aside,

    why not go the whole way? Use a fullblade. Base damage 2d8.
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    I was wrong about wielding whatever size you want. It also moves from light to one handed to two handed to unwieldable. You could go for a kukri designed for extra large titans though.

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    Titan bloodline. Wield a Gargantuan warhammer without penalty. Well, it's not a sword, but I'm one of the few people who think hammers are cooler anyway.
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Better make it a mithral weapon though, so you aren't heavily encumbered jsut holding it.

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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Also, note that Monkey Grip does not stack with powerfull build. Both reference the creature's base size, not the effective size for weapon wielding.

    On that note, go Goliath substituted Barbarian 1/Psionic Warrior X for mountain rage and Expansion. Grab strong arm braces and Extra Rage.

    Combat starts: use expansion to eat a mushroom, then begin raging. Depending on your level, you could be wielding anywhere from a huge to a colossal weapon.

    Alternate plan: Goliath Barb 1/Wu Jen X, as above, but your base size is colossal+ for combat, wielding a colossal++ weapon. Enjoy.
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    hum, a mithral kukri of gargartuan proportions , might do the trick

    oh right, mountain rage makes you bigger , add this to a Mario mushroom and you're set (and no wasted feats either)
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Monkey Grip and Powerful Build explicitly don't stack.

    I'd go with an Exectioner's Mace as a base weapon. 2d6 like a Greatsword, but bludgeoning. Make it Heavy for 3d6 at medium size, or 4d6 at large size. If you had a Half Giant (XPH) and augemented Expansion, you'd be Huge, treated as Gargantuan. That would mean you have a 12d6 weapon. Since its bludgeoning, you could then affect it with Greater Mighty Wallop from Races of the Dragon. CL20 would get you 5 size increases for 18d6 > 36d6 > 64d6 > 128d6 > 192d6.

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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    While that is more-or-less possible, I believe, you have to receive the Greater Mighty Wallop before you receive the size increases, because of GMW's maximum size limitation. There are a few other ways to increase those dice, as well, though you're far past needing them.

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    Mountain Rage doesn't allow you to wield a huge weapon. It states the size increase does not stack with the benfits from powerfull build.
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    Default Re: BFS , big ... sword character

    Quote Originally Posted by Androgeus View Post
    Mountain Rage doesn't allow you to wield a huge weapon. It states the size increase does not stack with the benfits from powerfull build.
    Right, which is why said character would be using Strongarm Bracers, which basically give you the benefits of Monkey Grip sans penalty. You lose Powerful Build, which those means you are able to actually benefit from the bracers.
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    ^: That's why you have monkey grip, silly

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