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    I can't seem to find good +int templates. Might be because those who wants Int don't like LA, so WoTC doesn't make so much of them.

    So, say if you can have LA buyoff, and you're a Wizard/Psion/Archivist/whatever that wants Int, what templates is possible to be added to get more Int?

    I can only think of 2 below +3LA so far. (+3LA can be bought off by lvl 18)

    Half Nymph, +2 LA for some int. Don't think it's very good though
    Half Dragon, +3 LA

    There's also stuff like half-celestial/fiend, red dragonspawn and such, but +4LA.

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    Venerable Dragonwrought Kobolds can pull off +3 to all mental stats to start with no LA, so there's that. Grey Elves get +2 Int and -2 Con, again no LA. Maybe that will help a bit.

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    The only one I can think of is Phrenic, here. It only gives +2 int, though.
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    To be honest, unless you start off at a high enough level where you can buy everything off, any LA higher than 1 or 2 isn't worth it. Especially for full casters.

    You'd be better off with a Grey Elf or a LA +1 race with +Int and get some extra levels in.


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    That's a little high for buyoff, though.
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    Spellwarped, +3 LA for +4 STR, CON and INT as well as Spell Resistance that gives you free buffs when it works.

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    Isn't 30 Int at 20th enough?

    There was a feat in the 3.0 faerun campaign book that lets you treat your main casting stat as 2 points higher in regards to spells.

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    There was a feat in the 3.0 faerun campaign book that lets you treat your main casting stat as 2 points higher in regards to spells.
    Yeah, Spellcasting Prodigy. The 3.0 version was crazy-good, and all casters had it.
    But, alas, it was ignominiously nerfed in 3.5, and now noone has it; but such is life.


    The Deep template (Dragon #306) gives +2 INT for +1 LA.

    While not a template, Necrotic Empowerment (Book of Bad Latin) gives a +8 enhancement bonus (requires Mother Cyst, decent feat overall though).

    Oh, and of course there's also classic tricks like PAOing into something with a higher INT score than you *cough*white ethergaunt*cough* (and I shudder to think of PAO +Reserves of Strength).
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    The only other one that comes to mind is the voidmind template (yes, having your brain eaten and replaced with goo makes you smarter). Having +3 LA, it's generally not worth it, however.

    If there are any +0/+1 LA templates with a boost to int, I don't know about them, so they are almost certainly in Dungeon/Dragon magazine. +2 LA templates can be worth it, but I mostly support just Grey (Gray?) Elf, possibly with a template like Dark or Vecna-blooded.

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    Thanks. Those look ok. Not spectacular like some templates though.

    I do suppose this is one case where melees get nicer things than wizards (given that there's a bunch of sweet low LA +Str/Dex templates to tack on)

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    deep imaskari are good, can easy get hold of the deep template too.

    Half-fireelemental, +3 LA and the trusty Gravetouched Ghoul, +2 Int, +2LA both come to mind
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    Lesser Tiefling (also comes with a +2 dex for you touch attack and initiative needs).

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